From: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>,
"Mark M. Hoffman" <mhoffman@lightlink.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH] v1 of IBM power meter driver
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:19:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070828131942.18449886@hyperion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070828015029.GA10107@khazad-dum.debian.net>
Hi Darrick, hi Henrique,
Good thing that manufacturers start including wattmeters in their
hardware. Hopefully this will help users better control their power
consumption in the long run.
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:50:29 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > documentation doesn't mention any naming conventions for sensors that
> > measure Watts, so I am proposing that they be called "powerX_input" in a
> > fashion similar to temperature/rpm/current sensors. If that is
> > agreeable to everyone, I'll post a follow-up patch to amend the
> > documentation.
>
> What unit should we use? Watts are way, way too big as there is no
> floating/fixed point in sysfs. 10^-6 W is probably what is called for,
> since we already need 10^-3 V and 10^-3 A. Small portable devices can
> easily draw less than 10^-3 W nowadays.
Good point. The driver currently exports non-integer values, which is
not acceptable, so indeed it needs to be changed. We want at least a
resolution of 10^-3 W. Not sure about 10^-6 W. I am surprised that
portable devices can really draw less than 1 mW, and be it the case, I
doubt that manufacturers will embed a wattmetter: it would probably
draw more current than the rest of the device ;) so it may not be
relevant for our decision.
So I think I'd go with 10^-3 W, but I welcome diverging opinions. Out
of curiosity, what is the physical resolution of IBM's device?
I see that the driver relies on IPMI. Can't it be merged with the
out-of-tree impisensors driver then? This would give that driver some
momentum so that it can finally be merged, and I would like to avoid
having two drivers if one is enough. Note though that I don't know
anything about IPMI so I might as well be totally wrong ;)
--
Jean Delvare
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From: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>,
"Mark M. Hoffman" <mhoffman@lightlink.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH] v1 of IBM power meter driver
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:19:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070828131942.18449886@hyperion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070828015029.GA10107@khazad-dum.debian.net>
Hi Darrick, hi Henrique,
Good thing that manufacturers start including wattmeters in their
hardware. Hopefully this will help users better control their power
consumption in the long run.
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:50:29 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > documentation doesn't mention any naming conventions for sensors that
> > measure Watts, so I am proposing that they be called "powerX_input" in a
> > fashion similar to temperature/rpm/current sensors. If that is
> > agreeable to everyone, I'll post a follow-up patch to amend the
> > documentation.
>
> What unit should we use? Watts are way, way too big as there is no
> floating/fixed point in sysfs. 10^-6 W is probably what is called for,
> since we already need 10^-3 V and 10^-3 A. Small portable devices can
> easily draw less than 10^-3 W nowadays.
Good point. The driver currently exports non-integer values, which is
not acceptable, so indeed it needs to be changed. We want at least a
resolution of 10^-3 W. Not sure about 10^-6 W. I am surprised that
portable devices can really draw less than 1 mW, and be it the case, I
doubt that manufacturers will embed a wattmetter: it would probably
draw more current than the rest of the device ;) so it may not be
relevant for our decision.
So I think I'd go with 10^-3 W, but I welcome diverging opinions. Out
of curiosity, what is the physical resolution of IBM's device?
I see that the driver relies on IPMI. Can't it be merged with the
out-of-tree impisensors driver then? This would give that driver some
momentum so that it can finally be merged, and I would like to avoid
having two drivers if one is enough. Note though that I don't know
anything about IPMI so I might as well be totally wrong ;)
--
Jean Delvare
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-28 11:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-27 21:14 [lm-sensors] [PATCH] v1 of IBM power meter driver Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-27 21:14 ` Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-28 1:50 ` [lm-sensors] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-28 1:50 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-28 11:19 ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2007-08-28 11:19 ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2007-08-28 16:28 ` Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-28 16:28 ` Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-29 9:49 ` Jean Delvare
2007-08-29 9:49 ` Jean Delvare
2007-08-29 12:45 ` Frank Phillips
2007-08-29 12:45 ` Frank Phillips
2007-08-28 16:44 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-28 16:44 ` [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-29 9:10 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Jean Delvare
2007-08-29 9:10 ` [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Jean Delvare
2007-08-29 14:50 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-29 14:50 ` [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-30 9:57 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Jean Delvare
2007-08-30 9:57 ` [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Jean Delvare
2007-09-11 16:43 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-11 16:43 ` [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-01 17:10 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Pavel Machek
2007-09-01 17:10 ` [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Pavel Machek
2007-09-01 18:05 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Shem Multinymous
2007-09-01 18:05 ` [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Shem Multinymous
2007-09-01 19:44 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-09-01 19:44 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-09-02 19:38 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Jean Delvare
2007-09-02 19:38 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Jean Delvare
2007-09-03 2:02 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-09-03 2:02 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-09-03 16:06 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Jean Delvare
2007-09-03 16:06 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Jean Delvare
2007-09-03 23:22 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-09-03 23:22 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-09-06 9:34 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Jean Delvare
2007-09-06 9:34 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Jean Delvare
2007-09-06 16:29 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-09-06 16:29 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: Add power meters to Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-28 16:49 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] v2 of IBM power meter driver Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-28 16:49 ` Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-28 23:25 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] v3 " Darrick J. Wong
2007-08-28 23:25 ` Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-11 13:23 ` [lm-sensors] " Mark M. Hoffman
2007-09-11 13:23 ` Mark M. Hoffman
2007-09-12 1:11 ` [lm-sensors] " Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-12 1:11 ` Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-14 19:29 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH v2] hwmon: Update Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-14 19:29 ` [PATCH v2] hwmon: Update Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-17 17:28 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH v2] hwmon: Update Jean Delvare
2007-09-17 17:28 ` [PATCH v2] hwmon: Update Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Jean Delvare
2007-09-17 18:43 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH v2] hwmon: Update Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-17 18:43 ` [PATCH v2] hwmon: Update Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-21 8:43 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH v2] hwmon: Update Jean Delvare
2007-09-21 8:43 ` [PATCH v2] hwmon: Update Documentation/hwmon/sysfs-interface Jean Delvare
2007-09-14 19:33 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH v4] IBM power meter driver Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-14 19:33 ` Darrick J. Wong
2007-10-09 12:00 ` [lm-sensors] " Mark M. Hoffman
2007-10-09 12:00 ` Mark M. Hoffman
2007-10-09 16:44 ` [lm-sensors] " Roel Kluin
2007-10-09 16:44 ` Roel Kluin
2007-10-09 20:40 ` [lm-sensors] " Darrick J. Wong
2007-10-09 20:40 ` Darrick J. Wong
2007-10-09 22:08 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] ibmpex: Release IPMI user if hwmon Darrick J. Wong
2007-10-09 22:08 ` [PATCH] ibmpex: Release IPMI user if hwmon registration fails Darrick J. Wong
2007-10-11 11:45 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] ibmpex: Release IPMI user if hwmon Mark M. Hoffman
2007-10-11 11:45 ` [PATCH] ibmpex: Release IPMI user if hwmon registration fails Mark M. Hoffman
2007-10-13 0:29 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH v4] IBM power meter driver Darrick J. Wong
2007-10-13 0:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2007-09-11 13:59 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH] v3 of " Jean Delvare
2007-09-11 13:59 ` Jean Delvare
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