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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
	Glauber de Oliveira Costa <gcosta@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, --cc@redhat.com, avi@quramnet.com,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Glauber de Oliveira Costa <glauber@t60.localdomain>,
	Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>, Garrett Smith <garrett@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:55:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071029225528.GA31293@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47266431.1010500@goop.org>


* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:

> > if it's inaccurate why are you exposing it to the guest then? Native 
> > only uses the TSC if it's safe and accurate to do so.
> 
> It is used as part of the Xen clocksource as a short term 
> extrapolator, with correction parameters supplied by the hypervisor.  
> It should never be used directly.

that's totally broken then. You cannot create an SMP-safe monotonic 
clocksource via interpolation - native does not do it either. Good thing 
this problem got exposed, it needs to be fixed.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-29 22:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-29 23:10 [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-29 23:10 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-29 22:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-29 22:17   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-29 22:36   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30  1:26   ` john stultz
2007-10-30  2:39   ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-30  2:39     ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-30  7:37     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30  7:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 10:52       ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-30 10:52         ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-30 12:13       ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-30 12:13         ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-29 22:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 22:42   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 22:45   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:45     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 22:52     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:52       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:55       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-10-29 23:17         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 23:17           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 23:21           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:21             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:33             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 23:33               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-30  0:45             ` Ian Pratt
2007-10-30  0:45               ` Ian Pratt
2007-10-30  7:19               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30  7:19                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 22:55     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 22:55       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 23:02       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:13         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 23:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:17             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 12:02           ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-30 12:02             ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-30 17:58             ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-30 17:58               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 23:24         ` Dan Hecht
2007-10-29 23:24           ` Dan Hecht
2007-10-30  4:24           ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-10-30  4:24             ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-30  7:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30  7:14             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 11:59       ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-30 11:59         ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-30  0:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-10-30  0:17   ` H. Peter Anvin

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