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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
To: dccp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK_DGRAM
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:23:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080513162325.GF15306@ghostprotocols.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080513072853.GB4514@gerrit.erg.abdn.ac.uk>

Em Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:50:59AM -0700, David Stevens escreveu:
> Are they mutually exclusive?
> 
> Why not add SOCK_DGRAM/IPPROTO_DCCP support while leaving

Because DCCP is not SOCK_DGRAM at all? :)

> the existing stuff alone, and then requiring programs that want to use
> getaddrinfo to use it that way?

I wonder what is the problem with doing what I did when adding support
for DCCP in ttcp, or for AF_LLC in ssh, ncftp, vsftpd, etc, i.e.
getaddrinfo/getnameinfo wrappers that look if SOCK_DCCP or AF_LLC are
being asked for and doing the right thing.

IIRC at the time I asked Ulrich Drepper about adding support for PF_LLC
sockets in glibc and he said that it would be OK as long as it didn't
included PF_LLC sockets in the default search, doing it only when PF_LLC
was explicitely passed. I just never got around to actually cook up the
patches and send it to Uli.

What would be the problem of SOCK_DCCP being handled in glibc in such a
fashion?

- Arnaldo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
To: David Stevens <dlstevens@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Gerrit Renker <gerrit@erg.abdn.ac.uk>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	dccp@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK_DGRAM
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:23:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080513162325.GF15306@ghostprotocols.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFDBD6E282.6F00998A-ON88257448.0056D40D-88257448.0057105E@us.ibm.com>

Em Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:50:59AM -0700, David Stevens escreveu:
> Are they mutually exclusive?
> 
> Why not add SOCK_DGRAM/IPPROTO_DCCP support while leaving

Because DCCP is not SOCK_DGRAM at all? :)

> the existing stuff alone, and then requiring programs that want to use
> getaddrinfo to use it that way?

I wonder what is the problem with doing what I did when adding support
for DCCP in ttcp, or for AF_LLC in ssh, ncftp, vsftpd, etc, i.e.
getaddrinfo/getnameinfo wrappers that look if SOCK_DCCP or AF_LLC are
being asked for and doing the right thing.

IIRC at the time I asked Ulrich Drepper about adding support for PF_LLC
sockets in glibc and he said that it would be OK as long as it didn't
included PF_LLC sockets in the default search, doing it only when PF_LLC
was explicitely passed. I just never got around to actually cook up the
patches and send it to Uli.

What would be the problem of SOCK_DCCP being handled in glibc in such a
fashion?

- Arnaldo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-13 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-13  7:28 [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK_DGRAM Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13  7:28 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13  7:39 ` David Miller
2008-05-13  7:39   ` David Miller
2008-05-13  9:37 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13  9:37   ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 13:46 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 13:46   ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 15:50 ` David Stevens
2008-05-13 15:50   ` David Stevens
2008-05-13 16:23 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2008-05-13 16:23   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 16:59 ` David Stevens
2008-05-13 16:59   ` David Stevens
2008-05-13 17:03 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 17:03   ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 17:06 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 17:06   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 17:33 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:33   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:34 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:34   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:37 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 17:37   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 17:50 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:50   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:53 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:53   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 19:14 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-13 19:14   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-13 22:34 ` David Miller
2008-05-13 22:34   ` David Miller
2008-05-14  8:09 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14  8:09   ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 14:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 14:06   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 14:45 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 14:45   ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 16:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 16:06   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 17:22 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 17:22   ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 17:39 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2008-05-14 17:39   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2008-05-14 17:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 17:43   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 17:47 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-14 17:47   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-14 17:49 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-14 17:49   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-14 17:57 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 17:57   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 18:00 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 18:00   ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 18:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 18:06   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 18:07 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 18:07   ` Ulrich Drepper
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-13 12:53 [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SO Remi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 12:53 ` [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK_DGRAM Remi Denis-Courmont

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