From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: dccp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK_DGRAM
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:06:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <482AF1DB.1060608@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080513072853.GB4514@gerrit.erg.abdn.ac.uk>
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Gerrit Renker wrote:
> RFC 3493 says that 0 for socktype/protocol means that caller will accept
> any socket type / protocol, so presumably this does include DCCP and UDP-Lite.
I know what the RFC says. But there are a gazillion of protocols out
there and I won't create a record for all of them in case socktype and
protocol are zero. That's just overkill in 99.9% of all cases.
I assumption is that UDPlite is just too specialized to be useful to a
wide array of people. Yes, it case be supported if explicitly requested
but should be returned if 0/0 is passed in.
What I'm asking is whether this is a fair assumption and what the story
of DCCP is.
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➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖
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From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Gerrit Renker <gerrit@erg.abdn.ac.uk>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
R?mi Denis-Courmont <rdenis@simphalempin.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>, David Stevens <
Subject: Re: [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK_DGRAM
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 07:06:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <482AF1DB.1060608@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080514080942.GB4462@gerrit.erg.abdn.ac.uk>
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Gerrit Renker wrote:
> RFC 3493 says that 0 for socktype/protocol means that caller will accept
> any socket type / protocol, so presumably this does include DCCP and UDP-Lite.
I know what the RFC says. But there are a gazillion of protocols out
there and I won't create a record for all of them in case socktype and
protocol are zero. That's just overkill in 99.9% of all cases.
I assumption is that UDPlite is just too specialized to be useful to a
wide array of people. Yes, it case be supported if explicitly requested
but should be returned if 0/0 is passed in.
What I'm asking is whether this is a fair assumption and what the story
of DCCP is.
- --
➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-14 14:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-13 7:28 [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK_DGRAM Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 7:28 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 7:39 ` David Miller
2008-05-13 7:39 ` David Miller
2008-05-13 9:37 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 9:37 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 13:46 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 13:46 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 15:50 ` David Stevens
2008-05-13 15:50 ` David Stevens
2008-05-13 16:23 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 16:23 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 16:59 ` David Stevens
2008-05-13 16:59 ` David Stevens
2008-05-13 17:03 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 17:03 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-13 17:06 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 17:06 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 17:33 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:33 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:34 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:34 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:37 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 17:37 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 17:50 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:50 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:53 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 17:53 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-05-13 19:14 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-13 19:14 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-13 22:34 ` David Miller
2008-05-13 22:34 ` David Miller
2008-05-14 8:09 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 8:09 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 14:06 ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2008-05-14 14:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 14:45 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 14:45 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 16:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 16:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 17:22 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 17:22 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 17:39 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2008-05-14 17:39 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2008-05-14 17:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 17:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 17:47 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-14 17:47 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-14 17:49 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-14 17:49 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-14 17:57 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 17:57 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 18:00 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 18:00 ` Gerrit Renker
2008-05-14 18:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 18:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 18:07 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-05-14 18:07 ` Ulrich Drepper
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2008-05-13 12:53 [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SO Remi Denis-Courmont
2008-05-13 12:53 ` [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK_DGRAM Remi Denis-Courmont
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