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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: reiser4 inclusion?
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:25:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200904250225.26206.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49F2523A.70604@ontolab.com>

On Samstag 25 April 2009, Christian Stroetmann OntoLab wrote:
> Hello Jason,
>
> > Edward,
> >
> >> Please,
> >> don't flood in this mailing list.
> >> Go away!
> >
> > You are totally out of line here.
> >
> > First, please following mailing list etiquette and don't top post
> >
> > Second, Christian, like all others, have a right to post here. You may
> > not agree with his posts (or what he is doing with OntoFS), but that
> > does not give you the right to tell him to go away.
> >
> > Third, if the community only relied on you to progress reiserfs, it
> > has been years at this point and nothing significant. it is basically
> > somewhat dead.
> >
> > If there was more co-operation and less fighting, perhaps forking
> > would not need to be an issue, but with your head up your ass no
> > progress gets made, no leaps forward, nada, zip, zilch.
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> >> Christian Stroetmann OntoLab wrote:
> >>> Dear Christian;
> >>>
> >>> You wrote:
> >>>> With still no project page in sight,
> >>>
> >>> Under the label of my company and taking the full risk of losing
> >>> reputation, in contrast to other well known Linux distributions and
> >>> former supporters of R....4 fs which (partly) jumped off the train, I
> >>> made the following offers in the past:
> >>> 1. Support the R4 fs under the name R4.
> >>> 2. Set up a project page or, on the wish of the developement
> >>> community, a wiki.
> >>> 3. Under an other name, which I've choosen and I'm not allowed to name
> >>> in this mailinglist, I've have even developed another kind of file
> >>> system.
> >>>
> >>> The results were:
> >>> To 1.: No echo.
> >>> To 2.: No replay.
> >>> To 3.: I got a kindly "Go away" advice.
> >>> And to give it the rest: I do have alternatives and if some persons
> >>> think, that they can gain something by their destructive attitude,
> >>> than I have to say: Okay, have a nice day.
> >>>
> >>> Being constructive, I think we need a new projcet management, maybe a
> >>> new maintainer, or some bytes for archiving the digital waste.
> >>>
> >>>> I find it hard to track[0] the progress of the work being towards an
> >>>> inclusion of reiser4 into mainline. Unable to help out with real
> >>>> code, I look at the reiser4-for-2.6.29 diffstat (sans the fs/reiser4
> >>>> parts!) and see:
> >>>>
> >>>> Documentation/Changes                         |   12
> >>>> Documentation/filesystems/reiser4.txt         |   75
> >>>> fs/Kconfig                                    |    1
> >>>> fs/Makefile                                   |    1
> >>>> fs/buffer.c                                   |    9
> >>>> fs/fs-writeback.c                             |    5
> >>>> include/linux/fs.h                            |    3
> >>>> include/linux/mm.h                            |    2
> >>>> mm/filemap.c                                  |    4
> >>>> mm/page-writeback.c                           |   48
> >>>> So, with 4 of them being "just" documentation and build magic, I take
> >>>> it that we're 6 files and less than 100 lines of code away from at
> >>>> least putting this file system into the new staging/ tree perhaps?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> I found it more and more jokeless, what is going on around this fs.
> >>> Btw.: I can't and I won't follow the claims and resitances made by Al
> >>> Viro and other hard core coders against R4 and HFS+, especially the
> >>> arguments in the hardlink subject.
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Christian.
> >>>>
> >>>> [0] http://tinyurl.com/dexfq9
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely
> >>> Christian *<:o)
>
> I would really like to know, what was and is going on behind the scenes.
> If Mr. Shishkin wants some kind of monetary support for his work, then I
> have to say: "Sorry, but not this way" and "The time is over since two
> years". That  means no money! You got me? Good.
>

no, you want to make money without paying him, right?


  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-25  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-18 20:14 reiser4 inclusion? Christian Kujau
2009-04-19 10:23 ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-19 12:51   ` Edward Shishkin
2009-04-19 11:14     ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-19 11:31       ` Alexander Lyamin
2009-04-19 11:43         ` Mat
2009-04-19 11:47         ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-19 12:09           ` Dushan Tcholich
2009-04-19 12:32             ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-19 12:45               ` Alexander Lyamin
2009-04-19 13:00                 ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-19 13:32                   ` Alexander Lyamin
2009-04-19 14:00                     ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-19 13:08               ` Dushan Tcholich
2009-04-19 13:24                 ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-24 23:35     ` Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
2009-04-24 23:53       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-04-25  0:01         ` Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
2009-04-25  0:15           ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-25  0:28             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-04-25  0:42               ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
     [not found]           ` <49F2CF9A.1060202@inn.nl>
2009-04-25  9:13             ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-25 11:16               ` Alli Quaknaa
2009-04-25 16:26                 ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
     [not found]                   ` <8c113a260904251204u41f90028n975006634ed99e59@mail.gmail.com>
2009-04-25 20:15                     ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-25 21:04                       ` Alli Quaknaa
2009-04-25 23:18                         ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-25 23:52                           ` Mat
2009-04-26  8:50                             ` reiser4 inclusion and beyond Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-26 10:18                               ` Marcel Hilzinger
2009-04-26 11:27                                 ` Alli Quaknaa
2009-04-26  8:53                             ` reiser4 inclusion? Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-25 20:27                   ` Formal Reiser4 inclusion and todo list? William Fisher
2009-04-25 22:50                     ` Edward Shishkin
2010-07-28 15:21                       ` doiggl
2010-07-28 19:58                         ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-08-01 13:43                           ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-08-01 13:58                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-08-01 14:14                               ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-08-01 14:23                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-08-01 14:36                                   ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-08-02  7:25                             ` Nick Piggin
2010-08-02 13:13                               ` Edward Shishkin
2010-08-02 14:30                             ` Ralph Ulrich
2010-08-02 17:37                               ` Christian Stroetmann
2009-04-25  0:03         ` reiser4 inclusion? Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
     [not found]           ` <200904250235.52257.volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
2009-04-25  0:49             ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-24 23:58       ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-25  0:25         ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2009-04-25  0:33           ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-26 11:03         ` Alexander Lyamin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-19 11:41 Mat
2009-04-19 20:44 ` Christian Kujau
2009-04-20  4:10   ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
     [not found]     ` <49EC1478.2080004@inn.nl>
2009-04-20  6:35       ` Christian Stroetmann OntoLab
2009-04-20  6:46         ` Bron Gondwana

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