Re: reiser4 inclusion?

[Christian Stroetmann OntoLab <stroetmann@ontolab.com>]

Jason,
> Volker,
>
>>> First, please following mailing list etiquette and don't top post
>>
>> it is pretty much his mailing list.
>
> Just because he is the "maintainer".
>
> Am I wrong, but the community owns the code, not Edward.
I have had the same impression in the past, but now I have learned 
something new.
>
> I mean, I could host a reiser list on my mail server.
I can do it too ;)
>
>>> Third, if the community only relied on you to progress reiserfs, it
>>> has been years at this point and nothing significant. it is basically
>>> somewhat dead.
>>
>> reiserfs is in  maintenance mode - there aren't much changes. In 
>> fact, less
>> changes is a good thing.
>
> maintenance mode = stagnant, no?
>
>>  Edward is also pretty much the last person working on reiser4. You are
>> attacking him, but I don't see patches from you. Gives someone 
>> something to
>> think about.
>
> Right because he has slammed heads with everyone that was willing to 
> help him. I was willing and when I tried talking with him he blew me 
> off. So I forked. OntoLab too.
Yes, that's exactly the point.
>
> Edward has lost the meaning of an open source community effort. It 
> isn't a one man show and it isn't blowing people off and it isn't 
> refusing to accept involvement and it isn't only accepting the help 
> you *want* versus what someone *offers*
Yes, that's exactly the point again.
>
>> look at the archives. Edward has good reasons to feel ripped of.
>> Maybe it is all a big miscommunication. But that isn't solved when 
>> ontolabs
>> guys agressively advertise for themselves.
>
> But what else is there when a snails pace is being achieved otherwise?
>
> Please realize that my tone is that of trying to band together and not 
> break apart. I want to see progress, I am willing to put in my time 
> and energy, but there is no path or goals or anything....what is one 
> supposed to think or do?
>
> I think that it is time to get back in the game.
Yes, we can :)
>
> -Jason
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Best wishes
Christian *<:o)