Re: reiser4 inclusion?

[Christian Stroetmann OntoLab <stroetmann@ontolab.com>]

Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb:
> On Samstag 25 April 2009, Christian Stroetmann OntoLab wrote:
>   
>> Jason,
>>
>>     
>>> Volker,
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> First, please following mailing list etiquette and don't top post
>>>>>           
>>>> it is pretty much his mailing list.
>>>>         
>>> Just because he is the "maintainer".
>>>
>>> Am I wrong, but the community owns the code, not Edward.
>>>       
>> I have had the same impression in the past, but now I have learned
>> something new.
>>
>>     
>
> people who write the code own the code. How many reiserfs or reiser4 related 
> patches from you two got into the kernel in the last... lets say 4 years?
>   
You don't hit the real problem. The last time we were at this question 
in this mailing-list, I said it seems to be, that we're are running in 
circles since 2 or 3 years. As Jason and I said, the maintainer refused 
to communicate with persons trying to support the development of the 
filesystem. Is this fact really so heavy to understand?
>   
>>> I mean, I could host a reiser list on my mail server.
>>>       
>> I can do it too ;)
>>     
>
> if you want to - nobody is stopping you.
>   
?!
>   
>>>>> Third, if the community only relied on you to progress reiserfs, it
>>>>> has been years at this point and nothing significant. it is basically
>>>>> somewhat dead.
>>>>>           
>>>> reiserfs is in  maintenance mode - there aren't much changes. In
>>>> fact, less
>>>> changes is a good thing.
>>>>         
>>> maintenance mode = stagnant, no?
>>>       
>
> wrong. maintenance mode = stable.
>   
?!
>
>   
>>>>  Edward is also pretty much the last person working on reiser4. You are
>>>> attacking him, but I don't see patches from you. Gives someone
>>>> something to
>>>> think about.
>>>>         
>>> Right because he has slammed heads with everyone that was willing to
>>> help him. I was willing and when I tried talking with him he blew me
>>> off. So I forked. OntoLab too.
>>>       
>> Yes, that's exactly the point.
>>     
>
> and then you stayed in your little corner. Nobody knows about your forks. 
> Nobody can use your forks.
???
>  Or are you sending your patches to Andrew Morton 
> for -mm inclusion?
>   
We are not at this point (see above).
>   
>>>> look at the archives. Edward has good reasons to feel ripped of.
>>>> Maybe it is all a big miscommunication. But that isn't solved when
>>>> ontolabs
>>>> guys agressively advertise for themselves.
>>>>         
>>> But what else is there when a snails pace is being achieved otherwise?
>>>       
>
> 'diplomacy' look into it, a very interesting topic.
>   
???
>
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With best regards
C. Stroetmann