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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	npiggin@suse.de, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] slab,slub: ignore __GFP_WAIT if we're booting or suspending
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:07:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090612100756.GA25185@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84144f020906120249y20c32d47y5615a32b3c9950df@mail.gmail.com>


* Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Ingo Molnar<mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> >> @@ -1548,6 +1548,20 @@ new_slab:
> >>               goto load_freelist;
> >>       }
> >>
> >> +     /*
> >> +      * Lets not wait if we're booting up or suspending even if the user
> >> +      * asks for it.
> >> +      */
> >> +     if (system_state != SYSTEM_RUNNING)
> >> +             gfpflags &= ~__GFP_WAIT;
> >
> > Hiding that bug like that is not particularly clean IMO. We should
> > not let system_state hacks spread like that.
> >
> > We emit a debug warning but dont crash, so all should be fine and
> > the culprits can then be fixed, right?
> 
> OK, lets not use system_state then and go with Ben's approach 
> then. Again, neither of the patches are about "hiding buggy 
> callers" but changing allocation policy wrt. gfp flags during boot 
> (and later on during suspend).

IMHO such invisible side-channels modifying the semantics of GFP 
flags is a bit dubious.

We could do GFP_INIT or GFP_BOOT. These can imply other useful 
modifiers as well: panic-on-failure for example. (this would clean 
up a fair amount of init code that currently checks for an panics on 
allocation failure.)

	Ingo

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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	npiggin@suse.de, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] slab,slub: ignore __GFP_WAIT if we're booting or suspending
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:07:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090612100756.GA25185@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84144f020906120249y20c32d47y5615a32b3c9950df@mail.gmail.com>


* Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Ingo Molnar<mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> >> @@ -1548,6 +1548,20 @@ new_slab:
> >>               goto load_freelist;
> >>       }
> >>
> >> +     /*
> >> +      * Lets not wait if we're booting up or suspending even if the user
> >> +      * asks for it.
> >> +      */
> >> +     if (system_state != SYSTEM_RUNNING)
> >> +             gfpflags &= ~__GFP_WAIT;
> >
> > Hiding that bug like that is not particularly clean IMO. We should
> > not let system_state hacks spread like that.
> >
> > We emit a debug warning but dont crash, so all should be fine and
> > the culprits can then be fixed, right?
> 
> OK, lets not use system_state then and go with Ben's approach 
> then. Again, neither of the patches are about "hiding buggy 
> callers" but changing allocation policy wrt. gfp flags during boot 
> (and later on during suspend).

IMHO such invisible side-channels modifying the semantics of GFP 
flags is a bit dubious.

We could do GFP_INIT or GFP_BOOT. These can imply other useful 
modifiers as well: panic-on-failure for example. (this would clean 
up a fair amount of init code that currently checks for an panics on 
allocation failure.)

	Ingo

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-12 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-12  8:13 [PATCH 2/2] slab,slub: ignore __GFP_WAIT if we're booting or suspending Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12  8:13 ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12  9:03 ` [PATCH v2] " Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12  9:03   ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12  9:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12  9:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12  9:21     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12  9:21       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12  9:24       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12  9:24         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12  9:36         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12  9:36           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12  9:45           ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12  9:45             ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12  9:58             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12  9:58               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 10:00               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 10:00                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 15:22             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-12 15:22               ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-12  9:49     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12  9:49       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12  9:52       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12  9:52         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12  9:54         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12  9:54           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12  9:59         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12  9:59           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-25  4:38           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-25  4:38             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 10:07       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-06-12 10:07         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 10:11         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 10:11           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 10:15           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 10:15             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 10:30             ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12 10:30               ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-12 10:32               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 10:32                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 15:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 15:16                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 15:16                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 15:16                   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 11:13             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:13               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:24               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:24                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:11           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:11             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:34             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 11:34               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 11:41               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:41                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:43                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 11:43                   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 15:30               ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-12 15:30                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-12 21:42                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 21:42                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-25  4:41                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-25  4:41                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-12 11:09         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 11:09           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 15:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 15:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 15:05     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-12 15:05       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-19 14:59   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 14:59     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 22:27     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-19 22:27       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-19 23:23       ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 23:23         ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 23:50         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-19 23:50           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-20  0:28           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-20  0:28             ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-20  2:10             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-20  2:10               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-21  6:18               ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21  6:18                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21  9:31                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-21  9:31                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-25  4:34                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-25  4:34                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-25  9:56                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-25  9:56                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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