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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"Fischer, Anna" <anna.fischer@hp.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@voltaire.com>,
	Edge Virtual Bridging <evb@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH] macvlan: add tap device backend
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:50:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090810085003.GA3654@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200908092042.24686.arnd@arndb.de>

On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 08:42:24PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Sunday 09 August 2009 08:02:16 Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:50:28PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > * The same framework in macvlan can be used to add a third backend
> > > into a future kernel based virtio-net implementation.
> > 
> > Could you split the patches up, to make this last easier?
> > patch 1 - export framework
> > patch 2 - code using it
> 
> Sure, will do.
> 
> > > +/* Get packet from user space buffer */
> > > +static ssize_t macvtap_get_user(struct macvtap_dev *vtap,
> > > +			       const struct iovec *iv, size_t count,
> > > +			       int noblock)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct sk_buff *skb;
> > > +	size_t len = count;
> > > +
> > > +	if (unlikely(len < ETH_HLEN))
> > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> > > +	skb = alloc_skb(NET_IP_ALIGN + len, GFP_KERNEL);
> > > +
> > > +	if (!skb) {
> > > +		vtap->m.dev->stats.rx_dropped++;
> > > +		return -ENOMEM;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	skb_reserve(skb, NET_IP_ALIGN);
> > > +	skb_put(skb, count);
> > > +
> > > +	if (skb_copy_datagram_from_iovec(skb, 0, iv, 0, len)) {
> > > +		vtap->m.dev->stats.rx_dropped++;
> > > +		kfree_skb(skb);
> > > +		return -EFAULT;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	skb_set_network_header(skb, ETH_HLEN);
> > > +	skb->dev = vtap->m.lowerdev;
> > > +
> > > +	macvlan_start_xmit(skb, vtap->m.dev);
> > > +
> > > +	return count;
> > > +}
> > 
> > With tap, we discovered that not limiting the number of outstanding
> > skbs hurts UDP performance. And the solution was to limit
> > the number of outstanding packets - with hacks to work around
> > the fact that userspace .
> 
> Something seems to be missing in your last sentence here.

Most userspace does not seem to implement software flow control for UDP,
even though it probably should.

> My driver OTOH is also missing any sort of flow control in both
> RX and TX direction ;) For RX, there should probably just be
> a limit of frames that get buffered in the ring.
> 
> For TX, I guess there should be a way to let the packet
> scheduler handle this and give us a chance to block and
> unblock at the right time. I haven't found out yet how to
> do that.
> 
> Would it be enough to check the dev_queue_xmit() return
> code for NETDEV_TX_BUSY?
> 
> How would I get notified when it gets free again?

You can do this by creating a socket. Look at how tun does
this now.

> > > +	ret = skb_copy_datagram_iovec(skb, 0, iv, len);
> > > +
> > > +	vtap->m.dev->stats.rx_packets++;
> > > +	vtap->m.dev->stats.rx_bytes += len;
> > 
> > where does atomicity guarantee for these counters come from?
> 
> AFAIK, we never do for any driver. They are statistics only and
> need not be 100% correct, so the networking stack goes for
> lower overhead and 99.9% correct.
> 
> > > +static ssize_t macvtap_aio_read(struct kiocb *iocb, const struct iovec *iv,
> > > +			    unsigned long count, loff_t pos)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct file *file = iocb->ki_filp;
> > > +	struct macvtap_dev *vtap = file->private_data;
> > > +	DECLARE_WAITQUEUE(wait, current);
> > > +	struct sk_buff *skb;
> > > +	ssize_t len, ret = 0;
> > > +
> > > +	if (!vtap)
> > > +		return -EBADFD;
> > > +
> > > +	len = iov_length(iv, count);
> > > +	if (len < 0) {
> > > +		ret = -EINVAL;
> > > +		goto out;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	add_wait_queue(&vtap->wait, &wait);
> > > +	while (len) {
> > > +		current->state = TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE;
> > > +
> > > +		/* Read frames from the queue */
> > > +		if (!(skb=skb_dequeue(&vtap->readq))) {
> > > +			if (file->f_flags & O_NONBLOCK) {
> > > +				ret = -EAGAIN;
> > > +				break;
> > > +			}
> > > +			if (signal_pending(current)) {
> > > +				ret = -ERESTARTSYS;
> > > +				break;
> > > +			}
> > > +			/* Nothing to read, let's sleep */
> > > +			schedule();
> > > +			continue;
> > > +		}
> > > +		ret = macvtap_put_user(vtap, skb, (struct iovec *) iv, len);
> > 
> > Don't cast away the constness. Instead, fix macvtap_put_user
> > to used skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec which does not modify the iovec.
> 
> Ah, good catch. I had copied that from the tun driver before you
> fixed it there and failed to fix it the right way when I adapted
> it for the new interface.
> 
> Thanks for the review,
> 
> 	Arnd <><

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@voltaire.com>,
	"Fischer, Anna" <anna.fischer@hp.com>,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Edge Virtual Bridging <evb@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] macvlan: add tap device backend
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:50:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090810085003.GA3654@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200908092042.24686.arnd@arndb.de>

On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 08:42:24PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Sunday 09 August 2009 08:02:16 Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:50:28PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > * The same framework in macvlan can be used to add a third backend
> > > into a future kernel based virtio-net implementation.
> > 
> > Could you split the patches up, to make this last easier?
> > patch 1 - export framework
> > patch 2 - code using it
> 
> Sure, will do.
> 
> > > +/* Get packet from user space buffer */
> > > +static ssize_t macvtap_get_user(struct macvtap_dev *vtap,
> > > +			       const struct iovec *iv, size_t count,
> > > +			       int noblock)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct sk_buff *skb;
> > > +	size_t len = count;
> > > +
> > > +	if (unlikely(len < ETH_HLEN))
> > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> > > +	skb = alloc_skb(NET_IP_ALIGN + len, GFP_KERNEL);
> > > +
> > > +	if (!skb) {
> > > +		vtap->m.dev->stats.rx_dropped++;
> > > +		return -ENOMEM;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	skb_reserve(skb, NET_IP_ALIGN);
> > > +	skb_put(skb, count);
> > > +
> > > +	if (skb_copy_datagram_from_iovec(skb, 0, iv, 0, len)) {
> > > +		vtap->m.dev->stats.rx_dropped++;
> > > +		kfree_skb(skb);
> > > +		return -EFAULT;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	skb_set_network_header(skb, ETH_HLEN);
> > > +	skb->dev = vtap->m.lowerdev;
> > > +
> > > +	macvlan_start_xmit(skb, vtap->m.dev);
> > > +
> > > +	return count;
> > > +}
> > 
> > With tap, we discovered that not limiting the number of outstanding
> > skbs hurts UDP performance. And the solution was to limit
> > the number of outstanding packets - with hacks to work around
> > the fact that userspace .
> 
> Something seems to be missing in your last sentence here.

Most userspace does not seem to implement software flow control for UDP,
even though it probably should.

> My driver OTOH is also missing any sort of flow control in both
> RX and TX direction ;) For RX, there should probably just be
> a limit of frames that get buffered in the ring.
> 
> For TX, I guess there should be a way to let the packet
> scheduler handle this and give us a chance to block and
> unblock at the right time. I haven't found out yet how to
> do that.
> 
> Would it be enough to check the dev_queue_xmit() return
> code for NETDEV_TX_BUSY?
> 
> How would I get notified when it gets free again?

You can do this by creating a socket. Look at how tun does
this now.

> > > +	ret = skb_copy_datagram_iovec(skb, 0, iv, len);
> > > +
> > > +	vtap->m.dev->stats.rx_packets++;
> > > +	vtap->m.dev->stats.rx_bytes += len;
> > 
> > where does atomicity guarantee for these counters come from?
> 
> AFAIK, we never do for any driver. They are statistics only and
> need not be 100% correct, so the networking stack goes for
> lower overhead and 99.9% correct.
> 
> > > +static ssize_t macvtap_aio_read(struct kiocb *iocb, const struct iovec *iv,
> > > +			    unsigned long count, loff_t pos)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct file *file = iocb->ki_filp;
> > > +	struct macvtap_dev *vtap = file->private_data;
> > > +	DECLARE_WAITQUEUE(wait, current);
> > > +	struct sk_buff *skb;
> > > +	ssize_t len, ret = 0;
> > > +
> > > +	if (!vtap)
> > > +		return -EBADFD;
> > > +
> > > +	len = iov_length(iv, count);
> > > +	if (len < 0) {
> > > +		ret = -EINVAL;
> > > +		goto out;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	add_wait_queue(&vtap->wait, &wait);
> > > +	while (len) {
> > > +		current->state = TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE;
> > > +
> > > +		/* Read frames from the queue */
> > > +		if (!(skb=skb_dequeue(&vtap->readq))) {
> > > +			if (file->f_flags & O_NONBLOCK) {
> > > +				ret = -EAGAIN;
> > > +				break;
> > > +			}
> > > +			if (signal_pending(current)) {
> > > +				ret = -ERESTARTSYS;
> > > +				break;
> > > +			}
> > > +			/* Nothing to read, let's sleep */
> > > +			schedule();
> > > +			continue;
> > > +		}
> > > +		ret = macvtap_put_user(vtap, skb, (struct iovec *) iv, len);
> > 
> > Don't cast away the constness. Instead, fix macvtap_put_user
> > to used skb_copy_datagram_const_iovec which does not modify the iovec.
> 
> Ah, good catch. I had copied that from the tun driver before you
> fixed it there and failed to fix it the right way when I adapted
> it for the new interface.
> 
> Thanks for the review,
> 
> 	Arnd <><

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-10  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-06 21:50 [Bridge] [PATCH] macvlan: add tap device backend Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-06 21:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-07  3:20 ` [Bridge] " David Miller
2009-08-07  3:20   ` David Miller
2009-08-07 17:35 ` [Bridge] " Daniel Robbins
2009-08-07 17:35   ` Daniel Robbins
2009-08-09  8:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-09  8:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-09 20:42   ` [Bridge] " Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-09 20:42     ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-10  8:50     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-08-10  8:50       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-10 13:29       ` [Bridge] " Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-10 13:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-10 13:42         ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-10 13:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-10  6:47 ` [Bridge] " Patrick McHardy
2009-08-10  6:47   ` Patrick McHardy
2009-08-10 18:43   ` [Bridge] " Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-10 18:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] <0199E0D51A61344794750DC57738F58E6D6A6CD7F6@GVW1118EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net>
2009-08-07 19:10 ` [Bridge] " Paul Congdon (UC Davis)
2009-08-07 19:10   ` Paul Congdon (UC Davis)
2009-08-07 19:10   ` Paul Congdon (UC Davis)
2009-08-07 19:35   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-07 19:35     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-07 19:44     ` Fischer, Anna
2009-08-07 19:44       ` Fischer, Anna
2009-08-07 20:17       ` david
2009-08-07 20:17         ` david
2009-08-07 19:47     ` Paul Congdon (UC Davis)
2009-08-07 19:47       ` Paul Congdon (UC Davis)
2009-08-07 21:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-07 21:38       ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-07 22:05   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-07 22:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-10 12:40     ` Fischer, Anna
2009-08-10 12:40       ` Fischer, Anna
2009-08-10 12:40       ` Fischer, Anna
2009-08-10 19:04       ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-10 19:04         ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-10 19:32         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-10 19:32           ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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