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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v5)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:36:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100113193603.GA27327@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1263400738.4244.242.camel@laptop>

* Peter Zijlstra (peterz@infradead.org) wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 20:37 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > +       for_each_cpu(cpu, tmpmask) {
> > +               spin_lock_irq(&cpu_rq(cpu)->lock);
> > +               mm = cpu_curr(cpu)->mm;
> > +               spin_unlock_irq(&cpu_rq(cpu)->lock);
> > +               if (current->mm != mm)
> > +                       cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, tmpmask);
> > +       } 
> 
> Why not:
> 
>   rcu_read_lock();
>   if (current->mm != cpu_curr(cpu)->mm)
>     cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, tmpmask);
>   rcu_read_unlock();
> 
> the RCU read lock ensures the task_struct obtained remains valid, and it
> avoids taking the rq->lock.
> 

If we go for a simple rcu_read_lock, I think that we need a smp_mb()
after switch_to() updates the current task on the remote CPU, before it
returns to user-space. Do we have this guarantee for all architectures ?

So what I'm looking for, overall, is:

schedule()
  ...
  switch_mm()
    smp_mb()
    clear mm_cpumask
    set mm_cpumask
  switch_to()
    update current task
    smp_mb()

If we have that, then the rcu_read_lock should work.

What the rq lock currently gives us is the guarantee that if the current
thread changes on a remote CPU while we are not holding this lock, then
a full scheduler execution is performed, which implies a memory barrier
if we change the current thread (it does, right ?).

Thanks,

Mathieu


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-13 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-13  1:37 [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v5) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  3:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13  3:58   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  4:47     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13  5:33       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13 15:03       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14  0:15         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-14  2:16           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14  2:25             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13  5:00 ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13  5:31   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13  5:39     ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 14:38       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 18:07         ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 18:24           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 18:41             ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 19:17               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 19:42                 ` David Daney
2010-01-13 19:53                   ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 23:42                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 15:58       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13 11:07 ` Heiko Carstens
2010-01-13 14:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-13 19:36   ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-01-14  9:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-14 16:26       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 17:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-14 17:54           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 18:37             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 18:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 19:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 21:26                   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-19 18:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 19:06                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20  3:13                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-20  8:45                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 11:26                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 16:07                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:12                           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-21 16:22                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:32                               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-21 17:02                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:17                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 17:01                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-19 19:43                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 18:50             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-19 16:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 17:11           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-19 17:30           ` Steven Rostedt

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