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From: David Daney <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Cc: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory	barrier (v5)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:42:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B4E2208.4030307@caviumnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100113191727.GA24742@Krystal>

Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Nicholas Miell (nmiell@comcast.net) wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 13:24 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>> * Nicholas Miell (nmiell@comcast.net) wrote:
>>>
>>>> The whole point of compat and incompat flags is that it allows new
>>>> applications to run on old kernels and either work or fail as
>>>> appropriate, depending on whether the new features they're using must be
>>>> implemented or can be silently ignored.
>>> I see. Thanks for the explanation. Then the expedited flag should
>>> clearly be part of the mandatory flags.
>>>
>>> Can you point me to other system calls that are doing this ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mathieu
>> Not off the top of my head, but I did steal the idea from the ext2/3/4
>> disk format.
> 
> Sounds a bit over-engineered to me for system calls, but who knows if we
> eventually have to extend sys_membarrier(). This involves that, right
> now, I'd have to add a header to include/linux to define these flags.
> Also, "int expedited" is a bit clearer, but less flexible, than "int
> flags". Anyone else have comments about this ?
> 

It doesn't bother me that you have to do extra work to add the flag 
definitions to a header file. :-)

As I understand it, the proposal is to have the option to extend the ABI 
based on as yet undefined flag bits.  This doesn't seem like a bad thing.

The runtime overhead of testing a single bit vs. non-zero in the 
parameter shouldn't be an issue.

David Daney

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-13 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-13  1:37 [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v5) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  3:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13  3:58   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13  4:47     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13  5:33       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13 15:03       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14  0:15         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-14  2:16           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14  2:25             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13  5:00 ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13  5:31   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13  5:39     ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 14:38       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 18:07         ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 18:24           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 18:41             ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 19:17               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 19:42                 ` David Daney [this message]
2010-01-13 19:53                   ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 23:42                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 15:58       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13 11:07 ` Heiko Carstens
2010-01-13 14:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-13 19:36   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14  9:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-14 16:26       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 17:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-14 17:54           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 18:37             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 18:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 19:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 21:26                   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-19 18:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 19:06                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20  3:13                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-20  8:45                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 11:26                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 16:07                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:12                           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-21 16:22                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:32                               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-21 17:02                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:17                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 17:01                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-19 19:43                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 18:50             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-19 16:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 17:11           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-19 17:30           ` Steven Rostedt

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