From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v5)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:33:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100114193355.GA23436@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1263495132.28171.3861.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
* Steven Rostedt (rostedt@goodmis.org) wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 13:37 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>
> > To make this painfully clear, I'll reorder the accesses to match that of
> > the CPU to memory:
> >
> > CPU 0 (membarrier) CPU 1 (another mm -our mm)
> > <user-space>
> > <kernel-space>
> > switch_mm()
> > smp_mb()
> > clear_mm_cpumask()
> > set_mm_cpumask()
> > smp_mb() (by load_cr3() on x86)
> > switch_to()
> > <buffered current = next>
> > <switch back to user-space>
> > urcu read lock()
> > access critical section data (3)
> > memory access before membarrier
> > <call sys_membarrier()>
> > smp_mb()
> > mm_cpumask includes CPU 1
> > rcu_read_lock()
> > if (CPU 1 mm != our mm)
> > skip CPU 1.
>
> I still don't see how the above conditional fails?
First, I just want to fix one detail I had wrong. It does not change the
end result, but it changes the order of the scenario:
A cpu "current" task struct is not the same thing as that same CPU
rq->curr. So we are talking about the rq->curr update here, not the cpu
"current" task (as I mistakenly assumed previously).
if (CPU 1 mm != our mm) translates into:
if (cpu_curr(1)->mm != current->mm)
where cpu_curr(cpu) is:
#define cpu_rq(cpu) (&per_cpu(runqueues, (cpu)))
#define cpu_curr(cpu) (cpu_rq(cpu)->curr)
struct rq "curr" field is a struct task_struct *, updated by
schedule() before calling context_switch().
So the requirement is that we need a smp_mb() before and after rq->curr
update in schedule(). The smp_mb() after the update is ensured by
context_switch() -> switch_mm() -> load_cr3(). However, updating my
scenario to match the fact that we are really talking about rq->curr
update here (which happens _before_ switch_mm() and not after), we can
see that the problematic case happens if there is no smp_mb() before
rq->curr update:
It's a case where CPU 1 switches from our mm to another mm:
CPU 0 (membarrier) CPU 1 (another mm -our mm)
<user-space> <user-space>
<buffered access C.S. data>
urcu read unlock()
barrier()
store local gp
<kernel-space>
rq->curr = next (1)
memory access before membarrier
<call sys_membarrier()>
smp_mb()
mm_cpumask includes CPU 1
rcu_read_lock()
if (cpu_curr(1)->mm != our mm)
skip CPU 1 -> here, rq->curr new version is already visible
rcu_read_unlock()
smp_mb()
<return to user-space>
memory access after membarrier
-> this is where we allow freeing
the old structure although the
buffered access C.S. data is
still in flight.
User-space access C.S. data (2)
(buffer flush)
switch_mm()
smp_mb()
clear_mm_cpumask()
set_mm_cpumask()
smp_mb() (by load_cr3() on x86)
switch_to()
<buffered current = next>
<switch back to user-space>
current = next (1) (buffer flush)
access critical section data (3)
As we can see, the reordering of (1) and (2) is problematic, as it lets
the check skip over a CPU that have global side-effects not committed to
memory yet.
Hopefully this explanation helps ?
Thanks,
Mathieu
>
> -- Steve
>
> > rcu_read_unlock()
> > smp_mb()
> > <return to user-space>
> > memory access after membarrier
> > current = next (1) (buffer flush)
> > read gp
> > store local gp (2)
> >
> > This should make the problem a bit more evident. Access (3) is done
> > outside of the read-side C.S. as far as the userspace synchronize_rcu()
> > is concerned.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mathieu
> >
> >
>
>
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-14 19:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-13 1:37 [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v5) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 3:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13 3:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 4:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13 5:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13 15:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 0:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-14 2:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 2:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-13 5:00 ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 5:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13 5:39 ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 14:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 18:07 ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 18:24 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 18:41 ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 19:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 19:42 ` David Daney
2010-01-13 19:53 ` Nicholas Miell
2010-01-13 23:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 15:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-01-13 11:07 ` Heiko Carstens
2010-01-13 14:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-13 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-13 19:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 9:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-14 16:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 17:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-14 17:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 18:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-14 18:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 19:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-01-14 21:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-19 18:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 19:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20 3:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-20 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 11:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 16:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-21 16:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-21 17:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-21 16:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 17:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-19 19:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-14 18:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-01-19 16:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 17:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-01-19 17:30 ` Steven Rostedt
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