From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>,
KVM General <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
ming.m.lin@intel.com, "Zhang,
Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: KVM PMU virtualization
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:39:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100226103934.GD4246@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B87987A.2020302@redhat.com>
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:46:34AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/26/2010 10:42 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> Note that the 'soft PMU' still sucks from a design POV as there's no generic
>> hw interface to the PMU. So there would have to be a 'soft AMD' and a 'soft
>> Intel' PMU driver at minimum.
>>
>
> Right, this will severely limit migration domains to hosts of the same
> vendor and processor generation. There is a middle ground, though,
> Intel has recently moved to define an "architectural pmu" which is not
> model specific. I don't know if AMD adopted it. We could offer both
> options - native host capabilities, with a loss of compatibility, and
> the architectural pmu, with loss of model specific counters.
I only had a quick look yet on the architectural pmu from intel but it
looks like it can be emulated for a guest on amd using existing
features.
Joerg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-26 10:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-25 15:04 KVM PMU virtualization Jes Sorensen
2010-02-25 15:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-02-25 16:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 2:52 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-02-26 8:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 11:03 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-25 17:34 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-26 2:55 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-02-26 8:51 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-26 9:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 10:42 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-26 10:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02 7:09 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-03-02 9:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-03 3:32 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-03-03 9:27 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-03-03 10:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-04 0:52 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-03-03 10:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-04 1:00 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-03-10 9:29 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-03-02 9:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 8:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 9:46 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 10:39 ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2010-02-26 10:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 10:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 11:06 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-26 11:18 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 11:25 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 11:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 11:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 11:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 11:23 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 11:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 11:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 12:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 12:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 12:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 13:04 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 13:13 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 13:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 13:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:07 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 14:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 13:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 13:34 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 12:56 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 13:37 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 14:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 15:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 15:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 15:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-01 19:03 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 18:54 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-26 13:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 14:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 16:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 16:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 13:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 13:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 13:51 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-08 18:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 12:49 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 13:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 13:32 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 13:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 14:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 15:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-28 16:34 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-28 16:31 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-28 16:11 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-01 8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 8:58 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-01 9:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 8:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 11:11 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-01 17:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-01 18:36 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-03-08 10:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 13:31 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-01 17:22 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-26 11:01 ` Jes Sorensen
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