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From: Chris Webb <chris@arachsys.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	KVM development list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:10:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100322211041.GD12635@arachsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BA7DBFB.8000808@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> writes:

> On 03/22/2010 11:04 PM, Chris Webb wrote:
>
> >Unless I'm missing something, the risk to guest OSes in this configuration
> >should therefore be exactly the same as the risk from running on normal
> >commodity hardware with such drives and no expensive battery-backed RAM.
> 
> A host crash will destroy your data.  If  your machine is connected
> to a UPS, only a firmware crash can destroy your data.

Yes, that's a good point: in this configuration a host crash is equivalent
to a power failure rather than a OS crash in terms of data loss.

Cheers,

Chris.

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From: Chris Webb <chris@arachsys.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	KVM development list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:10:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100322211041.GD12635@arachsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BA7DBFB.8000808@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> writes:

> On 03/22/2010 11:04 PM, Chris Webb wrote:
>
> >Unless I'm missing something, the risk to guest OSes in this configuration
> >should therefore be exactly the same as the risk from running on normal
> >commodity hardware with such drives and no expensive battery-backed RAM.
> 
> A host crash will destroy your data.  If  your machine is connected
> to a UPS, only a firmware crash can destroy your data.

Yes, that's a good point: in this configuration a host crash is equivalent
to a power failure rather than a OS crash in terms of data loss.

Cheers,

Chris.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-22 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-15  7:22 [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  7:22 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  7:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  7:48   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  8:07   ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  8:07     ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  8:27     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  8:27       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  9:17       ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  9:17         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  9:27         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  9:27           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 10:45           ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 10:45             ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 18:48           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 18:48             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  9:05             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16  9:05               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-19  7:23               ` Dave Hansen
2010-03-19  7:23                 ` Dave Hansen
2010-03-15 20:23       ` Chris Webb
2010-03-15 20:23         ` Chris Webb
2010-03-15 23:43         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 23:43           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  0:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16  0:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16  1:27             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  1:27               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  8:19               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16  8:19                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 15:14           ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:14             ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-17 15:55               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-17 16:27               ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:27                 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:04                 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:04                   ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:07                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-22 21:07                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-22 21:10                     ` Chris Webb [this message]
2010-03-22 21:10                       ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:27               ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 16:27                 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 17:05             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 17:05               ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 19:11               ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 19:11                 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-16  3:16         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16  3:16           ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16  9:17         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16  9:17           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16  9:54           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-03-16  9:54             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-03-16 10:16             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:16               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:26           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:26             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:36             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:36               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:44               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:44                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 11:08                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 11:08                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 14:27                   ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 14:27                     ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 15:59                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 15:59                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17  8:49                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17  8:49                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17  9:10                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17  9:10                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 15:24           ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:24             ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:22             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:22               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:40               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:40                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:47                 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:47                   ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:53                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:53                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:58                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 16:58                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:03                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 17:03                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:57                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 16:57                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:06                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 17:06                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:52               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 16:52                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:02                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 17:02                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 15:46 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-15 15:46   ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-16  3:21   ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16  3:21     ` Balbir Singh

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