From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
KVM development list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:05:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B9F49F1.70202@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9E810E.9010706@codemonkey.ws>
On 03/15/2010 08:48 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 03/15/2010 04:27 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>
>> That's only beneficial if the cache is shared. Otherwise, you could
>> use the balloon to evict cache when memory is tight.
>>
>> Shared cache is mostly a desktop thing where users run similar
>> workloads. For servers, it's much less likely. So a modified-guest
>> doesn't help a lot here.
>
> Not really. In many cloud environments, there's a set of common
> images that are instantiated on each node. Usually this is because
> you're running a horizontally scalable application or because you're
> supporting an ephemeral storage model.
But will these servers actually benefit from shared cache? So the
images are shared, they boot up, what then?
- apache really won't like serving static files from the host pagecache
- dynamic content (java, cgi) will be mostly in anonymous memory, not
pagecache
- ditto for application servers
- what else are people doing?
> In fact, with ephemeral storage, you typically want to use
> cache=writeback since you aren't providing data guarantees across
> shutdown/failure.
Interesting point.
We'd need a cache=volatile for this use case to avoid the fdatasync()s
we do now. Also useful for -snapshot. In fact I have a patch for this
somewhere I can dig out.
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error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
KVM development list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:05:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B9F49F1.70202@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9E810E.9010706@codemonkey.ws>
On 03/15/2010 08:48 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 03/15/2010 04:27 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>
>> That's only beneficial if the cache is shared. Otherwise, you could
>> use the balloon to evict cache when memory is tight.
>>
>> Shared cache is mostly a desktop thing where users run similar
>> workloads. For servers, it's much less likely. So a modified-guest
>> doesn't help a lot here.
>
> Not really. In many cloud environments, there's a set of common
> images that are instantiated on each node. Usually this is because
> you're running a horizontally scalable application or because you're
> supporting an ephemeral storage model.
But will these servers actually benefit from shared cache? So the
images are shared, they boot up, what then?
- apache really won't like serving static files from the host pagecache
- dynamic content (java, cgi) will be mostly in anonymous memory, not
pagecache
- ditto for application servers
- what else are people doing?
> In fact, with ephemeral storage, you typically want to use
> cache=writeback since you aren't providing data guarantees across
> shutdown/failure.
Interesting point.
We'd need a cache=volatile for this use case to avoid the fdatasync()s
we do now. Also useful for -snapshot. In fact I have a patch for this
somewhere I can dig out.
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error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-15 7:22 [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 7:22 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 7:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 7:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 8:07 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 8:07 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 8:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 8:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 9:17 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 9:17 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 9:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 9:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 10:45 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 10:45 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 18:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 18:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 9:05 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-16 9:05 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-19 7:23 ` Dave Hansen
2010-03-19 7:23 ` Dave Hansen
2010-03-15 20:23 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-15 20:23 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-15 23:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 23:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 0:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 0:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 1:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 1:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16 8:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 8:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 15:14 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:14 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-17 15:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-17 16:27 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:27 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:04 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:04 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-22 21:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-22 21:10 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:10 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 16:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 17:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 17:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 19:11 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 19:11 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-16 3:16 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 3:16 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 9:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 9:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 9:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-03-16 9:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-03-16 10:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 11:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 11:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 14:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 14:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 8:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 8:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 15:24 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:24 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:47 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:47 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 16:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 17:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 16:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 17:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 17:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 15:46 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-15 15:46 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-16 3:21 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 3:21 ` Balbir Singh
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