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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	KVM development list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:48:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B9E810E.9010706@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9DFD9C.8030608@redhat.com>

On 03/15/2010 04:27 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
> That's only beneficial if the cache is shared.  Otherwise, you could 
> use the balloon to evict cache when memory is tight.
>
> Shared cache is mostly a desktop thing where users run similar 
> workloads.  For servers, it's much less likely.  So a modified-guest 
> doesn't help a lot here.

Not really.  In many cloud environments, there's a set of common images 
that are instantiated on each node.  Usually this is because you're 
running a horizontally scalable application or because you're supporting 
an ephemeral storage model.

In fact, with ephemeral storage, you typically want to use 
cache=writeback since you aren't providing data guarantees across 
shutdown/failure.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	KVM development list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:48:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B9E810E.9010706@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9DFD9C.8030608@redhat.com>

On 03/15/2010 04:27 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
> That's only beneficial if the cache is shared.  Otherwise, you could 
> use the balloon to evict cache when memory is tight.
>
> Shared cache is mostly a desktop thing where users run similar 
> workloads.  For servers, it's much less likely.  So a modified-guest 
> doesn't help a lot here.

Not really.  In many cloud environments, there's a set of common images 
that are instantiated on each node.  Usually this is because you're 
running a horizontally scalable application or because you're supporting 
an ephemeral storage model.

In fact, with ephemeral storage, you typically want to use 
cache=writeback since you aren't providing data guarantees across 
shutdown/failure.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-15 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-15  7:22 [PATCH][RF C/T/D] Unmapped page cache control - via boot parameter Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  7:22 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  7:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  7:48   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  8:07   ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  8:07     ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  8:27     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  8:27       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  9:17       ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  9:17         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15  9:27         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15  9:27           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 10:45           ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 10:45             ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-15 18:48           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-15 18:48             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  9:05             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16  9:05               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-19  7:23               ` Dave Hansen
2010-03-19  7:23                 ` Dave Hansen
2010-03-15 20:23       ` Chris Webb
2010-03-15 20:23         ` Chris Webb
2010-03-15 23:43         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-15 23:43           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  0:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16  0:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16  1:27             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  1:27               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-16  8:19               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16  8:19                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 15:14           ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:14             ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-17 15:55               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-17 16:27               ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:27                 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:04                 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:04                   ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:07                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-22 21:07                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-22 21:10                     ` Chris Webb
2010-03-22 21:10                       ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:27               ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 16:27                 ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-17 17:05             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 17:05               ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 19:11               ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 19:11                 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-16  3:16         ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16  3:16           ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16  9:17         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16  9:17           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16  9:54           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-03-16  9:54             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-03-16 10:16             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:16               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:26           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:26             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:36             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:36               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 10:44               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 10:44                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-16 11:08                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 11:08                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 14:27                   ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 14:27                     ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16 15:59                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-16 15:59                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17  8:49                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17  8:49                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17  9:10                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17  9:10                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 15:24           ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 15:24             ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:22             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:22               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:40               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:40                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:47                 ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:47                   ` Chris Webb
2010-03-17 16:53                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:53                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:58                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 16:58                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:03                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 17:03                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:57                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 16:57                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:06                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 17:06                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 16:52               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 16:52                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-17 17:02                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-17 17:02                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 15:46 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-15 15:46   ` Randy Dunlap
2010-03-16  3:21   ` Balbir Singh
2010-03-16  3:21     ` Balbir Singh

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