From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: "Patrick J. LoPresti" <lopresti@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:45:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100817194504.GF26609@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BB-zVFyCLgC+RWai9FFecaOad=pUC2=XFnY3J@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:43:10PM -0700, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> >> Is there any objection to the mount option I am proposing?
> >
> > I have none. I doubt I'd use it as it would be too expensive on system
> > performance for some of my boxes, while having an incrementing value is
> > cheap.
> >
> > I don't see the two as conflicting - in fact the bits you need to do the
> > mount option are the bits you also need to do the counter version as
> > well. One fixes ordering at no real cost, the other adds high res
> > timestamps, both are useful.
>
> A mount option could also allow a choice of timestamp resolutions:
>
> Traditional (i.e., fast)
> Alan Cox NFS hack (a tad slower but should fix NFS)
> High-res time (slowest but most accurate)
>
> I will work on a patch this week (weekend at the latest).
I kind of hate to have mount options that are required for nfs exports
to work correctly; it soon makes things too complicated for users to
realiably get right, so distributions end up setting them, and then we
all end up taking the performance tradeoff anyway.
But a mount-option-based version may at least be useful for further
experiments.
--b.
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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: "Patrick J. LoPresti" <lopresti-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi-Vw/NltI1exuRpAAqCnN02g@public.gmane.org>,
linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:45:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100817194504.GF26609@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BB-zVFyCLgC+RWai9FFecaOad=pUC2=XFnY3J-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:43:10PM -0700, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> Is there any objection to the mount option I am proposing?
> >
> > I have none. I doubt I'd use it as it would be too expensive on system
> > performance for some of my boxes, while having an incrementing value is
> > cheap.
> >
> > I don't see the two as conflicting - in fact the bits you need to do the
> > mount option are the bits you also need to do the counter version as
> > well. One fixes ordering at no real cost, the other adds high res
> > timestamps, both are useful.
>
> A mount option could also allow a choice of timestamp resolutions:
>
> Traditional (i.e., fast)
> Alan Cox NFS hack (a tad slower but should fix NFS)
> High-res time (slowest but most accurate)
>
> I will work on a patch this week (weekend at the latest).
I kind of hate to have mount options that are required for nfs exports
to work correctly; it soon makes things too complicated for users to
realiably get right, so distributions end up setting them, and then we
all end up taking the performance tradeoff anyway.
But a mount-option-based version may at least be useful for further
experiments.
--b.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-17 19:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-13 18:25 Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-13 18:45 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 18:45 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 18:57 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-13 19:09 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 19:09 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 20:53 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-13 20:53 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-14 16:45 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-15 1:50 ` Bret Towe
2010-08-13 19:57 ` Jim Rees
2010-08-13 20:26 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 20:52 ` Jim Rees
2010-08-17 14:54 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 14:54 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 17:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 17:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 18:29 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 18:29 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 18:50 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 18:50 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:04 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:18 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:18 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:39 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:39 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-18 5:53 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 5:53 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 14:46 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 14:46 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 17:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 17:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:15 ` Chuck Lever
2010-08-18 18:15 ` Chuck Lever
2010-08-18 23:41 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 23:41 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 0:52 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 0:52 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 2:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19 2:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19 2:44 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 2:44 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 22:46 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19 22:46 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 23:47 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 23:47 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 17:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-18 17:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-18 18:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 19:25 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-18 19:30 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:34 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:34 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:54 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:43 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:43 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:45 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2010-08-17 19:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:12 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:12 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19 1:41 ` john stultz
2010-08-19 1:41 ` john stultz
2010-08-19 2:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19 2:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19 3:17 ` john stultz
2010-08-19 3:17 ` john stultz
2010-08-19 22:53 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:20 ` David Woodhouse
2010-08-18 18:20 ` David Woodhouse
2010-08-18 18:32 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 18:32 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 18:53 ` Andi Kleen
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