From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
To: devicetree-discuss <devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr@canonical.com>,
John Rigby <jcrigby@gmail.com>,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
microblaze-uclinux@itee.uq.edu.au,
Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Subject: Re: Request review of device tree documentation
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:19:25 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100901161925.GG13421@angua.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100805044325.GC25458@yookeroo>
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 02:43:25PM +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 04:59:46PM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
> > I've been doing a bit of work on some introductory level documentation
> > of the flattened device tree. I've got a rough copy up on the
> > devicetree.org wiki, and I could use some feedback. If anyone has
> > some time to look at it, you can find it here:
> >
> > http://devicetree.org/Device_Tree_Usage
>
> Sorry I haven't replied sooner, I've been away, then sick and
> generally preoccupied. Still here are some comments now.
Thanks David. Reworked as per comments. You can see the diff here:
http://www.devicetree.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Device_Tree_Usage&diff=228&oldid=227
g.
>
> How Addressing Works:
>
> * Small inconsistency you use "address1", "address2" then "unit-address3".
>
> * Perhaps re-emphasise that a parent's #*-cells properties govern the
> children's reg properties, not its own, since this is a common
> misunderstanding..
>
> Non Memory Mapped Devices:
>
> * Your phrasing here suggests that non-memory-maped == zero
> size-cells, which is not always true.
>
> Ranges (Address Translation):
>
> * Third paragraph, first sentence is a grammatical dogs' breakfast,
>
> How Interrupts Work:
>
> * Bogus paragraph break partway through first sentence.
>
> * At the end you say the second cell indicates the interrupt's
> polarity, but you don't specify how this is encoded. It might be
> worth emphasising that while most interrupt specifiers do include
> trigger and polarity type information, the encoding of it can and
> does vary between interrupt controllers.
>
> Advanced Sample Machine:
>
> * The unit address in the name shouldn't have a "0x" prefix
>
> Advanced Interrupt Mapping:
>
> * Perhaps worth noting that while a PCI *card* will use INTA..INTD,
> on-board PCI devices can, and frequently do, have interrupts wired
> side-band to the PCI bus, directly to the main interrupt
> controller.
>
> * In your example, you're muddying the waters of your previous usage
> of interrupt-parent. The PCI child nodes have the PCI top-level
> node as their implicit interrupt parent, because its their first
> ancestor with an interrupt-map, and we hit that before the
> interrupt-parent property specified at the very top level. This
> means amongst other things that if there are PCI devices with
> seperately wired interrupts, they must explicitly set
> interrupt-parent to bypass the normal PCI interrupt mapping.
>
>
> --
> David Gibson | I'll have my music baroque, and my code
> david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you. NOT _the_ _other_
> | _way_ _around_!
> http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson
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From: Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
To: devicetree-discuss
<devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org>,
Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
John Rigby <jcrigby-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linuxppc-dev
<linuxppc-dev-mnsaURCQ41sdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
microblaze-u
Subject: Re: Request review of device tree documentation
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:19:25 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100901161925.GG13421@angua.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100805044325.GC25458@yookeroo>
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 02:43:25PM +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 04:59:46PM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
> > I've been doing a bit of work on some introductory level documentation
> > of the flattened device tree. I've got a rough copy up on the
> > devicetree.org wiki, and I could use some feedback. If anyone has
> > some time to look at it, you can find it here:
> >
> > http://devicetree.org/Device_Tree_Usage
>
> Sorry I haven't replied sooner, I've been away, then sick and
> generally preoccupied. Still here are some comments now.
Thanks David. Reworked as per comments. You can see the diff here:
http://www.devicetree.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Device_Tree_Usage&diff=228&oldid=227
g.
>
> How Addressing Works:
>
> * Small inconsistency you use "address1", "address2" then "unit-address3".
>
> * Perhaps re-emphasise that a parent's #*-cells properties govern the
> children's reg properties, not its own, since this is a common
> misunderstanding..
>
> Non Memory Mapped Devices:
>
> * Your phrasing here suggests that non-memory-maped == zero
> size-cells, which is not always true.
>
> Ranges (Address Translation):
>
> * Third paragraph, first sentence is a grammatical dogs' breakfast,
>
> How Interrupts Work:
>
> * Bogus paragraph break partway through first sentence.
>
> * At the end you say the second cell indicates the interrupt's
> polarity, but you don't specify how this is encoded. It might be
> worth emphasising that while most interrupt specifiers do include
> trigger and polarity type information, the encoding of it can and
> does vary between interrupt controllers.
>
> Advanced Sample Machine:
>
> * The unit address in the name shouldn't have a "0x" prefix
>
> Advanced Interrupt Mapping:
>
> * Perhaps worth noting that while a PCI *card* will use INTA..INTD,
> on-board PCI devices can, and frequently do, have interrupts wired
> side-band to the PCI bus, directly to the main interrupt
> controller.
>
> * In your example, you're muddying the waters of your previous usage
> of interrupt-parent. The PCI child nodes have the PCI top-level
> node as their implicit interrupt parent, because its their first
> ancestor with an interrupt-map, and we hit that before the
> interrupt-parent property specified at the very top level. This
> means amongst other things that if there are PCI devices with
> seperately wired interrupts, they must explicitly set
> interrupt-parent to bypass the normal PCI interrupt mapping.
>
>
> --
> David Gibson | I'll have my music baroque, and my code
> david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you. NOT _the_ _other_
> | _way_ _around_!
> http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson
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2010-06-11 22:59 Request review of device tree documentation Grant Likely
2010-06-11 22:59 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-11 23:47 ` Dan Malek
2010-06-11 23:47 ` Dan Malek
2010-06-12 2:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 2:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 4:48 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 4:48 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 6:53 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-12 6:53 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-12 8:19 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 8:19 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 10:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 10:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 10:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 10:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 16:30 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 16:30 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 22:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 22:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 5:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-13 5:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-13 5:39 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-13 5:39 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-13 5:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 5:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 6:45 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-13 6:45 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-13 8:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 8:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 5:36 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:36 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:36 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 20:00 ` Ben Dooks
2010-06-14 20:00 ` Ben Dooks
2010-06-14 20:00 ` Ben Dooks
2010-06-13 8:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 8:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 5:23 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:23 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:23 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 7:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 7:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 7:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 7:45 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 7:45 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 7:45 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 9:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 9:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 9:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 9:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 9:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 9:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 9:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-14 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 13:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 13:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 13:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:35 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 15:35 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 15:35 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 15:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:16 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:16 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:16 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:02 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:02 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:02 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 12:44 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 12:44 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 12:44 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 14:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 14:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 14:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:08 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 15:08 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 15:08 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:28 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:28 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:28 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:58 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 16:58 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 16:58 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 17:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 17:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 18:20 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 18:20 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 18:20 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 19:40 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 19:40 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 20:08 ` Mark Brown
2010-06-14 20:08 ` Mark Brown
2010-06-14 20:08 ` Mark Brown
2010-06-16 6:09 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 6:09 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 6:09 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 6:13 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:13 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:13 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:17 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 6:17 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 6:32 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:32 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:32 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 6:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 7:40 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 7:40 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 7:40 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 9:45 ` Vladimir Pantelic
2010-06-16 9:45 ` Vladimir Pantelic
2010-06-16 9:45 ` Vladimir Pantelic
2010-06-16 10:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 10:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2010-06-16 11:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-16 11:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-16 11:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-16 13:48 ` Jamie Bennett
2010-06-16 13:48 ` Jamie Bennett
2010-06-16 14:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-16 14:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-16 17:43 ` Tim Bird
2010-06-16 17:43 ` Tim Bird
2010-06-16 17:43 ` Tim Bird
2010-06-17 6:45 ` Benjamin Zores
2010-06-16 6:52 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-16 6:52 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-16 6:52 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-18 22:12 ` Frank Rowand
2010-06-18 22:12 ` Frank Rowand
2010-06-15 2:02 ` David Gibson
2010-06-15 2:02 ` David Gibson
2010-06-15 2:02 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 15:51 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-14 15:51 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-14 15:51 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-13 5:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 5:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 5:13 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:13 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:13 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 6:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 6:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 6:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 6:17 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 6:17 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 6:17 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 22:15 ` Olof Johansson
2010-06-12 23:09 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-12 23:09 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-13 6:47 ` [microblaze-uclinux] " Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-06-12 3:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 3:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 3:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 3:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 13:12 ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-06-13 13:12 ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-06-14 5:40 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-12 17:33 ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-06-12 18:19 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-13 20:03 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 23:44 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-15 19:25 ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-06-14 5:54 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:54 ` Grant Likely
2010-08-05 4:43 ` David Gibson
2010-08-05 4:43 ` David Gibson
2010-09-01 16:19 ` Grant Likely [this message]
2010-09-01 16:19 ` Grant Likely
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