From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
lsf@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:08:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110406160805.GC18777@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110406153715.GA18777@redhat.com>
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 11:37:15AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
[..]
> > what kswapd is going to do writeback when the pages
> > it's trying to writeback during a critical low memory event belong
> > to a cgroup that is throttled at the IO level, etc.
>
> Throttling will move up so kswapd will not be throttled. Even today,
> kswapd is part of root group and we do not suggest throttling root group.
>
> For the case of proportional disk sharing, we will probably account
> IO to respective cgroups (pages submitted by kswapd) and that should
> not flush to disk fairly fast and should not block for long time as it is
> work consering mechanism.
>
> Do you see an issue with kswapd IO being accounted to respective cgroups
> for proportional IO. For throttling case, all IO would go to root group
> which is unthrottled and real issue of dirtying too many pages by
> processes will be handled by throttling processes when they are dirtying
> page cache.
Or may be it is not a good idea to try to account pages to associated
cgroups when memory is low and kswapd is doing IO. We can probably mark
kswapd with some flag and account all IO to root group even for
proportional weight mechanism. In this case isolation will be broken but
I guess one can not do much. To avoid this situation, one should not
have allowed too many writes and I think that's where low dirty ratio
can come into the picture.
I thought one of the use case of this was that a high prio buffered
writer should be able to do more writes than a low prio writer. That
I think should be possible by accounting flusher writes.
Dave you have any suggestions on how to handle this?
Thanks
Vivek
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2011-03-29 5:14 ` [Lsf] Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF Amir Goldstein
2011-03-29 11:16 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-29 11:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-03-29 12:17 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-29 13:09 ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-03-29 13:09 ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-03-29 13:12 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-29 13:38 ` James Bottomley
2011-03-29 17:20 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 17:20 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 17:33 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 18:10 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 18:10 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 18:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 19:13 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 19:13 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 19:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 19:59 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-29 20:12 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 20:12 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 20:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-03-29 23:09 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-29 23:09 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-30 5:58 ` [Lsf] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-03-30 14:02 ` James Bottomley
2011-03-30 14:10 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-03-30 14:26 ` James Bottomley
2011-03-30 14:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-03-30 15:33 ` James Bottomley
2011-03-30 15:46 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-30 15:46 ` Shyam_Iyer
2011-03-30 20:32 ` Giridhar Malavali
2011-03-30 20:45 ` James Bottomley
2011-03-29 19:47 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2011-03-29 20:29 ` Jan Kara
2011-03-29 20:31 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-30 0:33 ` Mingming Cao
2011-03-30 2:17 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-30 11:13 ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-30 11:28 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-30 14:07 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-01 15:19 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-01 16:30 ` Amir Goldstein
2011-04-01 21:46 ` Joel Becker
2011-04-02 3:26 ` Amir Goldstein
2011-04-01 21:43 ` Joel Becker
2011-04-01 21:43 ` Joel Becker
2011-04-01 21:43 ` Joel Becker
2011-03-30 21:49 ` Mingming Cao
2011-03-31 0:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-03-31 1:00 ` Joel Becker
2011-04-01 21:34 ` Mingming Cao
2011-04-01 21:49 ` Joel Becker
2011-03-29 15:35 ` [LSF][MM] page allocation & direct reclaim latency Rik van Riel
2011-03-29 19:05 ` [Lsf] " Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-29 20:35 ` Ying Han
2011-03-29 20:39 ` Ying Han
2011-03-29 20:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-29 20:53 ` Ying Han
2011-03-29 21:22 ` Rik van Riel
2011-03-29 22:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-29 22:13 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-29 23:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-30 16:17 ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-30 16:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-31 0:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-03-31 15:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-31 9:30 ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-31 16:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-30 16:59 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-03-29 17:35 ` [Lsf] Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF Chad Talbott
2011-03-29 19:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-29 20:14 ` Chad Talbott
2011-03-29 20:35 ` Jan Kara
2011-03-29 21:08 ` Greg Thelen
2011-03-30 4:18 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-30 15:37 ` IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: [Lsf] Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Vivek Goyal
2011-03-30 22:20 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-30 22:49 ` Chad Talbott
2011-03-31 3:00 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-31 14:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-31 14:34 ` Chris Mason
2011-03-31 22:14 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-31 23:43 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-01 0:55 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01 1:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-01 4:36 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01 6:32 ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: " Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-01 7:23 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01 12:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 15:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-01 14:49 ` IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: [Lsf] " Vivek Goyal
2011-03-31 22:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-31 14:50 ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: " Greg Thelen
2011-03-31 22:27 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-01 17:18 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-01 19:57 ` [LSF]: fc_rport attributes to further populate HBAAPIv2 Giridhar Malavali
2011-04-01 21:49 ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Dave Chinner
2011-04-02 7:33 ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-02 7:34 ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-05 13:13 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-05 22:56 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 14:49 ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-04-06 15:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 19:49 ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-06 23:07 ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback Greg Thelen
2011-04-06 23:36 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-07 19:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-07 20:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-07 21:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-07 23:42 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-08 0:59 ` Greg Thelen
2011-04-08 1:25 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-08 1:25 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-12 3:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-08 13:43 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 23:08 ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Dave Chinner
2011-04-07 20:04 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-07 23:47 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-08 13:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-11 1:05 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-06 15:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-06 16:08 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2011-04-06 17:10 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 17:14 ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-04-08 1:58 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 14:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-06 23:50 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-07 17:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-11 1:36 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-15 21:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-16 3:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-18 21:58 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-18 22:51 ` cgroup IO throttling and filesystem ordered mode (Was: Re: [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF)) Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 0:33 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 14:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 14:45 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 17:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 18:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-21 0:32 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 0:29 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 14:17 ` [Lsf] IO less throttling and cgroup aware writeback (Was: Re: Preliminary Agenda and Activities for LSF) Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 14:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 14:48 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 15:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 15:22 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 15:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 16:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 17:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-19 20:58 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20 1:21 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 10:56 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20 11:19 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 14:42 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20 1:16 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 18:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-20 19:16 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-21 0:17 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 15:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 15:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 17:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-22 4:21 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-22 15:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-22 16:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-04-25 18:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-04-26 14:37 ` Vivek Goyal
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