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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <chellwig@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: virtio scsi host draft specification, v3
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:46:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110629084619.GB14627@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E0AE0FE.2090905@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:23:26AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 06/12/2011 09:51 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  If a device uses more than one queue it is the responsibility of the
> >>>  device to ensure strict request ordering.
> >Maybe I misunderstand - how can this be the responsibility of
> >the device if the device does not get the information about
> >the original ordering of the requests?
> >
> >For example, if the driver is crazy enough to put
> >all write requests on one queue and all barriers
> >on another one, how is the device supposed to ensure
> >ordering?
> 
> I agree here, in fact I misread Hannes's comment as "if a driver
> uses more than one queue it is responsibility of the driver to
> ensure strict request ordering".  If you send requests to different
> queues, you know that those requests are independent.  I don't think
> anything else is feasible in the virtio framework.
> 
> Paolo

Like this then?

  If a driver uses more than one queue it is the responsibility of the
  driver to ensure strict request ordering: the device does not
  supply any guarantees about the ordering of requests between different
  virtqueues.



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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <chellwig@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] virtio scsi host draft specification, v3
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:46:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110629084619.GB14627@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E0AE0FE.2090905@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:23:26AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 06/12/2011 09:51 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  If a device uses more than one queue it is the responsibility of the
> >>>  device to ensure strict request ordering.
> >Maybe I misunderstand - how can this be the responsibility of
> >the device if the device does not get the information about
> >the original ordering of the requests?
> >
> >For example, if the driver is crazy enough to put
> >all write requests on one queue and all barriers
> >on another one, how is the device supposed to ensure
> >ordering?
> 
> I agree here, in fact I misread Hannes's comment as "if a driver
> uses more than one queue it is responsibility of the driver to
> ensure strict request ordering".  If you send requests to different
> queues, you know that those requests are independent.  I don't think
> anything else is feasible in the virtio framework.
> 
> Paolo

Like this then?

  If a driver uses more than one queue it is the responsibility of the
  driver to ensure strict request ordering: the device does not
  supply any guarantees about the ordering of requests between different
  virtqueues.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-29  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-07 13:43 virtio scsi host draft specification, v3 Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-07 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-08 23:28 ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-08 23:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2011-06-08 23:28   ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-09  6:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-09  6:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-09  6:59     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 11:33     ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-10 11:33       ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2011-06-10 12:14       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-10 12:14       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-10 12:14         ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-10 12:22         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 12:22         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 12:22           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 11:33     ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-08 23:28 ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-10 12:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-10 12:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-10 12:55   ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-10 14:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 14:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 14:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-14  8:39     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14  8:39     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14  8:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14 15:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 15:53         ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 15:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29  8:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  8:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  8:33         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  9:39         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29  9:39           ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 10:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:07             ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:23             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:23               ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:27                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:23             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-01  6:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  6:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  6:41             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  7:14             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-07-01  7:14               ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-07-01  8:35               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  8:35                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-04 13:38                 ` Hai Dong,Li
2011-07-04 13:38                 ` Hai Dong,Li
2011-07-04 13:38                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Hai Dong,Li
2011-07-04 14:22                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-04 14:22                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-04 14:22                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-01  8:35               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  7:14             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29  9:39         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-12  7:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-12  7:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-12  7:51     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-14 15:30     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14 15:30     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14 15:30       ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:00         ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29  8:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  8:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  8:23       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  8:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-06-29  8:46         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29  8:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:06         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:06         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:06           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:31             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:35             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:35             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:35               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:01       ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-07 13:43 Paolo Bonzini

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