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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <chellwig@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: virtio scsi host draft specification, v3
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:35:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0B0007.3050901@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110629103139.GC16757@redhat.com>

On 06/29/2011 12:31 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:06:29PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 06/29/2011 12:03 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>   I agree here, in fact I misread Hannes's comment as "if a driver
>>>>   uses more than one queue it is responsibility of the driver to
>>>>   ensure strict request ordering".  If you send requests to different
>>>>   queues, you know that those requests are independent.  I don't think
>>>>   anything else is feasible in the virtio framework.
>>>
>>> That doesn't really fit very well with the SAM model.  If we want
>>> to use multiple queues for a single LUN it has to be transparent to
>>> the SCSI command stream.  Then again I don't quite see the use for
>>> that anyway.
>>
>> Agreed, I see a use for multiple queues (MSI-X), but not for
>> multiple queues shared by a single LUN.
>
> Then let's make it explicit in the spec?

What, forbid it or say ordering is not guaranteed?  The latter is 
already explicit with the wording suggested in the thread.

Paolo

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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <chellwig@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] virtio scsi host draft specification, v3
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:35:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0B0007.3050901@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110629103139.GC16757@redhat.com>

On 06/29/2011 12:31 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:06:29PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 06/29/2011 12:03 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>   I agree here, in fact I misread Hannes's comment as "if a driver
>>>>   uses more than one queue it is responsibility of the driver to
>>>>   ensure strict request ordering".  If you send requests to different
>>>>   queues, you know that those requests are independent.  I don't think
>>>>   anything else is feasible in the virtio framework.
>>>
>>> That doesn't really fit very well with the SAM model.  If we want
>>> to use multiple queues for a single LUN it has to be transparent to
>>> the SCSI command stream.  Then again I don't quite see the use for
>>> that anyway.
>>
>> Agreed, I see a use for multiple queues (MSI-X), but not for
>> multiple queues shared by a single LUN.
>
> Then let's make it explicit in the spec?

What, forbid it or say ordering is not guaranteed?  The latter is 
already explicit with the wording suggested in the thread.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-29 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-07 13:43 virtio scsi host draft specification, v3 Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-07 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-08 23:28 ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-08 23:28 ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-08 23:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2011-06-08 23:28   ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-09  6:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-09  6:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-09  6:59     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 11:33     ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-10 11:33     ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-10 11:33       ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2011-06-10 12:14       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-10 12:14         ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-10 12:22         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 12:22           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 12:22         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 12:14       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-10 12:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-10 12:55   ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-10 14:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 14:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 14:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-14  8:39     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14  8:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14 15:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 15:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 15:53         ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29  8:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  8:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  8:33         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  9:39         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29  9:39         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29  9:39           ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 10:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:07             ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:23             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:23             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:23               ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:27                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-01  6:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  6:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  6:41             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  7:14             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-07-01  7:14               ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-07-01  8:35               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  8:35                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-04 13:38                 ` Hai Dong,Li
2011-07-04 13:38                 ` Hai Dong,Li
2011-07-04 13:38                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Hai Dong,Li
2011-07-04 14:22                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-04 14:22                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-04 14:22                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-01  8:35               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01  7:14             ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14  8:39     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-12  7:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-12  7:51     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-14 15:30     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14 15:30       ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:00         ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-14 15:30     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29  8:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  8:23       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29  8:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29  8:46         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29  8:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:06         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:06           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:31             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:35             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2011-06-29 10:35               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:35             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:06         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29  8:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:01       ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-12  7:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-10 12:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-07 13:43 Paolo Bonzini

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