From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <chellwig@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: virtio scsi host draft specification, v3
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:33:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0AE36B.9010500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DF71E28.6070009@suse.de>
On 06/14/2011 10:39 AM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> If, however, we decide to expose some details about the backend, we
> could be using the values from the backend directly.
> EG we could be forwarding the SCSI target port identifier here
> (if backed by real hardware) or creating our own SAS-type
> identifier when backed by qemu block. Then we could just query
> the backend via a new command on the controlq
> (eg 'list target ports') and wouldn't have to worry about any protocol
> specific details here.
Besides the controlq command, which I can certainly add, this is
actually quite similar to what I had in mind (though my plan likely
would not have worked because I was expecting hierarchical LUNs used
uniformly). So, "list target ports" would return a set of LUN values to
which you can send REPORT LUNS, or something like that? I suppose that
if you're using real hardware as the backing storage the in-kernel
target can provide that.
For the QEMU backend I'd keep hierarchical LUNs, though of course one
could add a FC or SAS bus to QEMU, each implementing its own identifier
scheme.
If I understand it correctly, it should remain possible to use a single
host for both pass-through and emulated targets.
Would you draft the command structure, so I can incorporate it into the
spec?
> Of course, when doing so we would be lose the ability to freely remap
> LUNs. But then remapping LUNs doesn't gain you much imho.
> Plus you could always use qemu block backend here if you want
> to hide the details.
And you could always use the QEMU block backend with scsi-generic if you
want to remap LUNs, instead of true passthrough via the kernel target.
Paolo
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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <chellwig@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] virtio scsi host draft specification, v3
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:33:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0AE36B.9010500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DF71E28.6070009@suse.de>
On 06/14/2011 10:39 AM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> If, however, we decide to expose some details about the backend, we
> could be using the values from the backend directly.
> EG we could be forwarding the SCSI target port identifier here
> (if backed by real hardware) or creating our own SAS-type
> identifier when backed by qemu block. Then we could just query
> the backend via a new command on the controlq
> (eg 'list target ports') and wouldn't have to worry about any protocol
> specific details here.
Besides the controlq command, which I can certainly add, this is
actually quite similar to what I had in mind (though my plan likely
would not have worked because I was expecting hierarchical LUNs used
uniformly). So, "list target ports" would return a set of LUN values to
which you can send REPORT LUNS, or something like that? I suppose that
if you're using real hardware as the backing storage the in-kernel
target can provide that.
For the QEMU backend I'd keep hierarchical LUNs, though of course one
could add a FC or SAS bus to QEMU, each implementing its own identifier
scheme.
If I understand it correctly, it should remain possible to use a single
host for both pass-through and emulated targets.
Would you draft the command structure, so I can incorporate it into the
spec?
> Of course, when doing so we would be lose the ability to freely remap
> LUNs. But then remapping LUNs doesn't gain you much imho.
> Plus you could always use qemu block backend here if you want
> to hide the details.
And you could always use the QEMU block backend with scsi-generic if you
want to remap LUNs, instead of true passthrough via the kernel target.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-29 8:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-07 13:43 virtio scsi host draft specification, v3 Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-07 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-08 23:28 ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-08 23:28 ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-08 23:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2011-06-08 23:28 ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-09 6:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-09 6:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-09 6:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 11:33 ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-10 11:33 ` Rusty Russell
2011-06-10 11:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2011-06-10 12:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-10 12:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-10 12:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 12:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 12:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 12:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-10 12:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-10 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-10 14:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 14:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-10 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-14 8:39 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14 8:39 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14 8:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14 15:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 15:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-14 15:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 8:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 8:33 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2011-06-29 8:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 9:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 9:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 10:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:23 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:23 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-01 6:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01 6:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01 6:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01 7:14 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-07-01 7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-07-01 8:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01 8:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-04 13:38 ` Hai Dong,Li
2011-07-04 13:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hai Dong,Li
2011-07-04 14:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-04 14:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-04 14:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-04 13:38 ` Hai Dong,Li
2011-07-01 8:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-07-01 7:14 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 9:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-12 7:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-12 7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-14 15:30 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-14 15:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 10:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-14 15:30 ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-06-29 8:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 8:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 8:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 8:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 8:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-29 10:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 8:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-29 10:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-12 7:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-10 12:55 ` Hannes Reinecke
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2011-06-07 13:43 Paolo Bonzini
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