From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>
Cc: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 03:07:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110822020737.GP2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAObL_7HLDD=FVSN58W7a0g0R--8x7OVrQVCBxWD1DirVZxRn2w@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:01:40PM -0400, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> 3. We're worried that pt_regs-using compat syscalls might want the
> regs to appear to match the actual arguments (why?)
run strace and you'll see why.
> 4. ptrace expects the "registers" when SYSCALL happens to match the
> int 0x80 convention. (This is, IMO, sick.)
That's what ptrace is *for*. It's there to let debuggers play with
the program being debugged, including taking a look at the syscall
arguments and modifying them. In a predictable way, please.
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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
mingo@redhat.com, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 03:07:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110822020737.GP2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAObL_7HLDD=FVSN58W7a0g0R--8x7OVrQVCBxWD1DirVZxRn2w@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:01:40PM -0400, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> 3. We're worried that pt_regs-using compat syscalls might want the
> regs to appear to match the actual arguments (why?)
run strace and you'll see why.
> 4. ptrace expects the "registers" when SYSCALL happens to match the
> int 0x80 convention. (This is, IMO, sick.)
That's what ptrace is *for*. It's there to let debuggers play with
the program being debugged, including taking a look at the syscall
arguments and modifying them. In a predictable way, please.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-22 2:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-18 18:58 [uml-devel] Subject: [PATCH 00/91] pending uml patches Al Viro
2011-08-18 18:58 ` Al Viro
2011-08-18 19:12 ` [uml-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2011-08-18 19:12 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-18 19:19 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-18 19:19 ` Al Viro
2011-08-19 4:31 ` Al Viro
2011-08-19 8:51 ` [uml-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2011-08-19 8:51 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 1:18 ` [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386 Al Viro
2011-08-20 15:22 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 20:14 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-20 20:14 ` Al Viro
2011-08-20 20:55 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 21:26 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-20 21:26 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-20 21:38 ` [uml-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 21:38 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 21:40 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-20 21:40 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 6:34 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-21 6:34 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 8:42 ` [uml-devel] SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) Al Viro
2011-08-21 8:42 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 11:24 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 11:24 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 13:37 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 13:37 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 14:51 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-21 14:51 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 14:43 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 16:41 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-21 16:41 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 0:44 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 0:44 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 1:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 1:19 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:19 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:19 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 1:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 21:25 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86-32, vdso: On system call restart after SYSENTER, use int $0x80 tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 23:40 ` tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 1:16 ` [uml-devel] SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:16 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:41 ` [uml-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 1:48 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 1:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 2:01 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:01 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:07 ` Al Viro [this message]
2011-08-22 2:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 2:26 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:26 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:34 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 2:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:05 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 9:53 ` [uml-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2011-08-22 13:34 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 13:34 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 14:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-22 14:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-22 15:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 15:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 20:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 20:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 21:52 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 21:52 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 23:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 0:03 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:03 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 1:01 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 1:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 2:59 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 2:59 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 2:17 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 6:15 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 14:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 16:30 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:30 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:11 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-23 16:11 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-23 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 18:04 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 18:04 ` Al Viro
2011-08-24 12:44 ` [PATCH] x86, asm: Document some of the syscall asm glue Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 16:22 ` [uml-devel] SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 16:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:53 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:53 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:58 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-23 16:58 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-23 17:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:29 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-23 17:29 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-25 0:05 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-23 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 20:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 21:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 21:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-24 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-24 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 16:48 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:48 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 21:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 21:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 19:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:41 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 19:41 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 21:17 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 21:17 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:16 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-23 1:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 1:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 4:11 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:26 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-22 4:26 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 5:03 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 5:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 5:10 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-23 5:10 ` Andrew Lutomirski
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