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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG <s.priebe@profihost.ag>,
	Zhu Yanhai <zhu.yanhai@gmail.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: slow performance on disk/network i/o full speed after drop_caches
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:57:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110901125720.GC24629@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110901041458.GA30123@localhost>

On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 12:14:58PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 03:11:02PM +0800, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG wrote:
> > Hi Fengguang,
> > Hi Yanhai,
> > 
> > > you're abssolutely corect zone_reclaim_mode is on - but why?
> > > There must be some linux software which switches it on.
> > >
> > > ~# grep 'zone_reclaim_mode' /etc/sysctl.* -r -i
> > > ~#
> > >
> > > also
> > > ~# grep 'zone_reclaim_mode' /etc/sysctl.* -r -i
> > > ~#
> > >
> > > tells us nothing.
> > >
> > > I've then read this:
> > >
> > > "zone_reclaim_mode is set during bootup to 1 if it is determined that
> > > pages from remote zones will cause a measurable performance reduction.
> > > The page allocator will then reclaim easily reusable pages (those page
> > > cache pages that are currently not used) before allocating off node pages."
> > >
> > > Why does the kernel do that here in our case on these machines.
> > 
> > Can nobody help why the kernel in this case set it to 1?
> 
> It's determined by RECLAIM_DISTANCE.
> 
> build_zonelists():
> 
>                 /*
>                  * If another node is sufficiently far away then it is better
>                  * to reclaim pages in a zone before going off node.
>                  */
>                 if (distance > RECLAIM_DISTANCE)
>                         zone_reclaim_mode = 1;
> 
> Since Linux v3.0 RECLAIM_DISTANCE is increased from 20 to 30 by this commit.
> It may well help your case, too.
> 

Even with that, it's known that zone_reclaim() can be a disaster when
it runs into problems. This should be fixed in 3.1 by the following
commits;

[cd38b115 mm: page allocator: initialise ZLC for first zone eligible for zone_reclaim]
[76d3fbf8 mm: page allocator: reconsider zones for allocation after direct reclaim]

The description in cd38b115 has the interesting details.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG <s.priebe@profihost.ag>,
	Zhu Yanhai <zhu.yanhai@gmail.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: slow performance on disk/network i/o full speed after drop_caches
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 13:57:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110901125720.GC24629@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110901041458.GA30123@localhost>

On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 12:14:58PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 03:11:02PM +0800, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG wrote:
> > Hi Fengguang,
> > Hi Yanhai,
> > 
> > > you're abssolutely corect zone_reclaim_mode is on - but why?
> > > There must be some linux software which switches it on.
> > >
> > > ~# grep 'zone_reclaim_mode' /etc/sysctl.* -r -i
> > > ~#
> > >
> > > also
> > > ~# grep 'zone_reclaim_mode' /etc/sysctl.* -r -i
> > > ~#
> > >
> > > tells us nothing.
> > >
> > > I've then read this:
> > >
> > > "zone_reclaim_mode is set during bootup to 1 if it is determined that
> > > pages from remote zones will cause a measurable performance reduction.
> > > The page allocator will then reclaim easily reusable pages (those page
> > > cache pages that are currently not used) before allocating off node pages."
> > >
> > > Why does the kernel do that here in our case on these machines.
> > 
> > Can nobody help why the kernel in this case set it to 1?
> 
> It's determined by RECLAIM_DISTANCE.
> 
> build_zonelists():
> 
>                 /*
>                  * If another node is sufficiently far away then it is better
>                  * to reclaim pages in a zone before going off node.
>                  */
>                 if (distance > RECLAIM_DISTANCE)
>                         zone_reclaim_mode = 1;
> 
> Since Linux v3.0 RECLAIM_DISTANCE is increased from 20 to 30 by this commit.
> It may well help your case, too.
> 

Even with that, it's known that zone_reclaim() can be a disaster when
it runs into problems. This should be fixed in 3.1 by the following
commits;

[cd38b115 mm: page allocator: initialise ZLC for first zone eligible for zone_reclaim]
[76d3fbf8 mm: page allocator: reconsider zones for allocation after direct reclaim]

The description in cd38b115 has the interesting details.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-01 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-24  6:06 slow performance on disk/network i/o full speed after drop_caches Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-24  6:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-08-24  6:20   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-08-24  9:01   ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-24  9:01     ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-24  9:33     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-24  9:33       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-25  9:00       ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-25  9:00         ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-26  2:16         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-26  2:16           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-26  2:54           ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-26  2:54             ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-26  3:03             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-26  3:03               ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-26  3:13               ` Stefan Priebe
2011-08-26  3:13                 ` Stefan Priebe
2011-08-26  3:26                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-26  3:26                   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-26  3:30                   ` Zhu Yanhai
2011-08-26  3:30                     ` Zhu Yanhai
2011-08-26  6:18                     ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-26  6:18                       ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-31  7:11                       ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-08-31  7:11                         ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-09-01  4:14                         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-01  4:14                           ` Wu Fengguang
2011-09-01  5:41                           ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-09-01  5:41                             ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2011-09-01 12:57                           ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-09-01 12:57                             ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-24  9:32   ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-24  9:32     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-08-24  9:32     ` Wu Fengguang

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