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From: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, harald@redhat.com, david@fubar.dk,
	greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: A Plumber’s Wish List for Linux
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 02:13:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111007001356.GA11994@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2lisx3cpl.fsf@firstfloor.org>

On Thu, 06.10.11 16:46, Andi Kleen (andi@firstfloor.org) wrote:

> 
> Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> writes:
> >
> > * allow changing argv[] of a process without mucking with environ[]:
> > Something like setproctitle() or a prctl() would be ideal. Of course
> > it
> 
> prctl(PR_SET_NAME, ...)
> 
> The only problem is that some programs still use argv[] and get the old
> name, but at least it works in "top"

Well, I am aware of PR_SET_NAME, but that modifies comm, not argv[]. And
while "top" indeed shows the former, "ps" shows the latter. We are looking
for a way to nice way to modify argv[] without having to reuse space
from environ[] like most current Linux implementations of
setproctitle() do.

A while back there were patches for PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA floating
around. We'd like to see something like that merged one day.

> > * SCM_COMM, with a similar use case as SCM_CGROUPS. This auxiliary
> > control message should carry the process name as available
> > in /proc/$PID/comm.
> 
> That sounds super racy. No guarantee at all this is unique and useful
> for anything and everyone can change it.

Well, it's interesting in the syslog case, and it's OK if people can
change it. What matters is that this information is available simply for
the informational value. Right now, if one combines SCM_CREDENTIALS and
/proc/$PID/comm you often end up with no information about the senders
name at all, since at the time you try to read comm the PID might
actually not exist anymore at all. We are simply trying to close this
particular race between receiving SCM_CREDENTIALS and reading
/proc/$PID/comm here, we are not looking for a way to make process names
trusted.

Lennart

-- 
Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-07  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-06 23:17 A Plumber’s Wish List for Linux Kay Sievers
2011-10-06 23:46 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-07  0:13   ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2011-10-07  1:57     ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-07 15:58       ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-19 23:16     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-07  7:49 ` Matt Helsley
2011-10-07 16:01   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-08  4:24     ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-10 16:31       ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-10 20:59         ` Detecting if you are running in a container Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-10 21:41           ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-11  5:40             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-11  6:54             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-12 16:59             ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-01 22:05               ` [lxc-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2011-11-01 23:51                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-11-02  8:08                   ` Michael Tokarev
2011-10-11  1:32           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-11  2:05             ` Matt Helsley
2011-10-11  3:25               ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-11  6:42                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-11 12:53                   ` Theodore Tso
2011-10-11 21:16                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-11 22:30                       ` david
2011-10-12  4:26                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-12  5:10                           ` david
2011-10-12 15:08                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-10-12 17:57                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-12 18:25                         ` Kyle Moffett
2011-10-12 19:04                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-12 19:12                             ` Kyle Moffett
2011-10-14 15:54                               ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-14 18:04                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-14 21:58                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-16  9:42                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-30 20:11                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-11-01 13:38                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-11 22:25               ` david
2011-10-07 10:12 ` A Plumber’s Wish List for Linux Alan Cox
2011-10-07 10:28   ` Kay Sievers
2011-10-07 10:38     ` Alan Cox
2011-10-07 12:46       ` Kay Sievers
2011-10-07 13:39         ` Theodore Tso
2011-10-07 15:21         ` Hugo Mills
2011-10-10 11:18           ` A Plumber???s " David Sterba
2011-10-10 11:18             ` David Sterba
2011-10-10 13:09             ` Theodore Tso
2011-10-13  0:28               ` Dave Chinner
2011-10-14 15:47                 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-10-11 13:14             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-10-11 15:49               ` Andrew G. Morgan
2011-10-12  2:31                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-10-12 20:51                 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-08  9:53         ` A Plumber’s " Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-10-09  3:15           ` Alex Elsayed
2011-10-07 16:07       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-10-07 12:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-07 18:59 ` Greg KH
2011-10-09 12:20   ` Kay Sievers
2011-10-09  8:45 ` Rusty Russell
2011-10-11 23:16 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12  0:53   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-12  0:59   ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]     ` <20111012174014.GE6281@google.com>
2011-10-12 18:16       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 15:38         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-14 16:01           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 16:08             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-10-14 16:19               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-19 21:19           ` Paul Menage
2011-10-19 21:12 ` Paul Menage
2011-10-19 23:03   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-19 23:09     ` Paul Menage
2011-10-19 23:31       ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-22 10:21         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-10-22 15:28           ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-25  5:40             ` Li Zefan
2011-10-30 17:18               ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-01  1:27                 ` Li Zefan
     [not found] <CAE2SPAZci=u__d58phePCftVr_e+i+N2YU-JYjGDG_b3TmYTSQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-07 13:40 ` Alan Cox
2011-10-07 14:57   ` Alexander E. Patrakov

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