From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:52:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120229105235.GH24600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F4E0299.9080800@redhat.com>
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:48:57PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/29/2012 12:44 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > Yes, crash can be so severe that it is not even detected by a kernel
> > > > itself, so not OOPS message even printed. But in most cases if kernel is
> > > > functional enough to print OOPS it is functional enough to call single
> > > > hypercall instruction.
> > >
> > > Why not print the oops to virtio-serial? Or even just a regular serial
> > > port? That's what bare metal does.
> > >
> > The more interface is complex the more chances it will fail during
> > panic. Regular serial is likely more reliable than virtio-serial.
> > Hypercall is likely more reliable than uart. On serial user can
> > fake panic notification.
>
> The serial device is under control of the kernel, so the user can only
> access it if the kernel so allows.
>
Yes, but if we will hijack UART for panic notification VM user will not
be able to use it for anything else. virtio-serial have many channels,
but AFAIK it does not work at early stages of boot process.
--
Gleb.
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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:52:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120229105235.GH24600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F4E0299.9080800@redhat.com>
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:48:57PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/29/2012 12:44 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > Yes, crash can be so severe that it is not even detected by a kernel
> > > > itself, so not OOPS message even printed. But in most cases if kernel is
> > > > functional enough to print OOPS it is functional enough to call single
> > > > hypercall instruction.
> > >
> > > Why not print the oops to virtio-serial? Or even just a regular serial
> > > port? That's what bare metal does.
> > >
> > The more interface is complex the more chances it will fail during
> > panic. Regular serial is likely more reliable than virtio-serial.
> > Hypercall is likely more reliable than uart. On serial user can
> > fake panic notification.
>
> The serial device is under control of the kernel, so the user can only
> access it if the kernel so allows.
>
Yes, but if we will hijack UART for panic notification VM user will not
be able to use it for anything else. virtio-serial have many channels,
but AFAIK it does not work at early stages of boot process.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-29 10:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-27 3:01 [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced Wen Congyang
2012-02-27 3:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-27 3:05 ` [PATCH]qemu: deal with guest paniced event Wen Congyang
2012-02-27 3:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-27 8:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-02-27 8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-02-27 8:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-01 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2012-03-01 16:51 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-03-02 0:40 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-02 0:40 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-27 15:08 ` [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced Jan Kiszka
2012-02-27 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 5:26 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 5:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 5:26 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 8:07 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 8:23 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 8:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 9:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 9:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 9:42 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 10:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 10:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 10:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-28 10:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 1:08 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 1:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 9:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 9:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:06 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-28 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 1:29 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 1:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 1:29 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 9:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:17 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-03-01 3:34 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-01 3:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-03-01 3:34 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-01 5:21 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-01 5:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:52 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-02-29 10:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 9:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-02-29 9:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2012-02-29 10:05 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:19 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-02-29 10:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2012-02-29 10:44 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:31 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:31 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:46 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:46 ` Avi Kivity
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