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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Making ARM multiplatform kernels DT-only?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:50:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201205031350.35476.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)

Hi everyone,

I've been discussing multiplatform kernels with a few people recently,
and we will have a lot of discussion sessions about this at Linaro
Connect in Hong Kong.

One question that came up repeatedly is whether we should support all
possible board files for each platform in a multiplatform kernel,
or just the ones that are already using DT probing. I would like
to get a quick poll of opinions on that and I've tried to put those
people on Cc that would be most impacted by this, i.e. the maintainers
for platforms that have both DT and non-DT board files at the moment.

My feeling is that we should just mandate DT booting for multiplatform
kernels, because it significantly reduces the combinatorial space
at compile time, avoids a lot of legacy board files that we cannot
test anyway, reduces the total kernel size and gives an incentive
for people to move forward to DT with their existing boards.

The counterargument is that we won't be able to support all the
boards we currently do when the user switches on multiplatform,
but I think that is acceptable.
Note that I would still want to allow users to build platforms
separately in order to enable the ATAG style board files, even
for platforms that are not multiplatform capable.

Other opinions?

	Arnd

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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org,
	"Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD" <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>,
	Deepak Saxena <dsaxena@linaro.org>,
	"Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	shawn.guo@linaro.org, Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@samsung.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	David Brown <davidb@codeaurora.org>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@gmail.com>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com>
Subject: Making ARM multiplatform kernels DT-only?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:50:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201205031350.35476.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)

Hi everyone,

I've been discussing multiplatform kernels with a few people recently,
and we will have a lot of discussion sessions about this at Linaro
Connect in Hong Kong.

One question that came up repeatedly is whether we should support all
possible board files for each platform in a multiplatform kernel,
or just the ones that are already using DT probing. I would like
to get a quick poll of opinions on that and I've tried to put those
people on Cc that would be most impacted by this, i.e. the maintainers
for platforms that have both DT and non-DT board files at the moment.

My feeling is that we should just mandate DT booting for multiplatform
kernels, because it significantly reduces the combinatorial space
at compile time, avoids a lot of legacy board files that we cannot
test anyway, reduces the total kernel size and gives an incentive
for people to move forward to DT with their existing boards.

The counterargument is that we won't be able to support all the
boards we currently do when the user switches on multiplatform,
but I think that is acceptable.
Note that I would still want to allow users to build platforms
separately in order to enable the ATAG style board files, even
for platforms that are not multiplatform capable.

Other opinions?

	Arnd

             reply	other threads:[~2012-05-03 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-03 13:50 Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2012-05-03 13:50 ` Making ARM multiplatform kernels DT-only? Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-03 13:45 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-05-03 13:45   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-05-03 14:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-03 14:04   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-03 13:52   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-05-03 13:52     ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-05-04  6:31   ` Deepak Saxena
2012-05-04  6:31     ` Deepak Saxena
2012-05-04  7:27     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-04  7:27       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-04 12:20   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 12:20     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 16:39     ` Rob Herring
2012-05-04 16:39       ` Rob Herring
2012-05-04 16:56       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-04 16:56         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-04 16:40         ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-05-04 16:40           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-05-04 16:51         ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-05-04 16:51           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-05-04 18:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 18:56         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-03 14:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-03 14:18   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-03 14:23   ` Magnus Damm
2012-05-03 14:23     ` Magnus Damm
2012-05-03 16:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-03 16:27     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04  9:22   ` Arnaud Patard (Rtp)
2012-05-04  9:22     ` Arnaud Patard
2012-05-04 12:34     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 12:34       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-10 10:55   ` Ben Dooks
2012-05-10 10:55     ` Ben Dooks
2012-05-10 11:02     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-10 11:02       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-03 14:46 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-05-03 14:46   ` Sascha Hauer
2012-05-04 16:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 16:24     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-05  8:09     ` Sascha Hauer
2012-05-05  8:09       ` Sascha Hauer
2012-05-05 13:17       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-05 13:17         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-14  8:54         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-14  8:54           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04  5:38 ` Deepak Saxena
2012-05-04  5:38   ` Deepak Saxena
2012-05-04  7:39   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-04  7:39     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-04 14:20   ` Wookey
2012-05-04 14:20     ` Wookey
2012-05-04 14:35     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-04 14:35       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-04 15:17       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 15:17         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 16:05         ` Wookey
2012-05-04 16:05           ` Wookey
2012-05-04 18:49           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 18:49             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 20:03       ` Linus Walleij
2012-05-04 20:03         ` Linus Walleij
2012-05-04 20:42         ` Christian Robottom Reis
2012-05-04 20:42           ` Christian Robottom Reis
2012-05-04 21:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 21:05             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-04 22:43         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-05-04 22:43           ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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