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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Spelic <spelic@shiftmail.org>
Cc: "Lukáš Czerner" <lczerner@redhat.com>,
	"Dave Chinner" <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"device-mapper development" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Ext4 and xfs problems in dm-thin on allocation and discard
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:44:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120619144413.GA7225@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FE0840F.2050704@shiftmail.org>

On Tue, Jun 19 2012 at  9:52am -0400,
Spelic <spelic@shiftmail.org> wrote:

> On 06/19/12 15:30, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> >I don't recall Spelic saying anything about EOPNOTSUPP. So what
> >has made you zero in on an -EOPNOTSUPP return (which should not be
> >happening)?
> 
> Exactly: I do not know if EOPNOTSUPP is being returned or not.
> 
> If this helps, I have configured dm-thin via lvm2
>   LVM version:     2.02.95(2) (2012-03-06)
>   Library version: 1.02.74 (2012-03-06)
>   Driver version:  4.22.0
> 
> from dmsetup table I only see one option : "skip_block_zeroing", if
> and only if I configure it with -Zn . I do not see anything
> regarding ignore_discard
> 
>      vg1-pooltry1-tpool: 0 20971520 thin-pool 252:1 252:2 2048 0 1
> skip_block_zeroing
>      vg1-pooltry1_tdata: 0 20971520 linear 9:20 62922752
>      vg1-pooltry1_tmeta: 0 8192 linear 9:20 83894272
>      vg1-thinlv1: 0 31457280 thin 252:3 1
> 
> 
> and in dmesg:
> [   33.685200] device-mapper: thin: Discard unsupported by data
> device (dm-2): Disabling discard passdown.
> [   33.709586] device-mapper: thin: Discard unsupported by data
> device (dm-6): Disabling discard passdown.
> 
> 
> I do not know what is the mechanism for which xfs cannot unmap
> blocks from dm-thin, but it really can't.
> If anyone has dm-thin installed he can try. This is 100%
> reproducible for me.

I was initially surprised by this considering the thinp-test-suite does
test a compilebench workload against xfs and ext4 using online discard
(-o discard).

But I just modified that test to use a thin-pool with 'ignore_discard'
and the test still passed on both ext4 and xfs.

So there is more work needed in the thinp-test-suite to use blktrace
hooks to verify that discards are occuring when the compilebench
generated files are removed.

I'll work through that and report back.

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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Spelic <spelic@shiftmail.org>
Cc: "Lukáš Czerner" <lczerner@redhat.com>,
	"device-mapper development" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Ext4 and xfs problems in dm-thin on allocation and discard
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:44:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120619144413.GA7225@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FE0840F.2050704@shiftmail.org>

On Tue, Jun 19 2012 at  9:52am -0400,
Spelic <spelic@shiftmail.org> wrote:

> On 06/19/12 15:30, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> >I don't recall Spelic saying anything about EOPNOTSUPP. So what
> >has made you zero in on an -EOPNOTSUPP return (which should not be
> >happening)?
> 
> Exactly: I do not know if EOPNOTSUPP is being returned or not.
> 
> If this helps, I have configured dm-thin via lvm2
>   LVM version:     2.02.95(2) (2012-03-06)
>   Library version: 1.02.74 (2012-03-06)
>   Driver version:  4.22.0
> 
> from dmsetup table I only see one option : "skip_block_zeroing", if
> and only if I configure it with -Zn . I do not see anything
> regarding ignore_discard
> 
>      vg1-pooltry1-tpool: 0 20971520 thin-pool 252:1 252:2 2048 0 1
> skip_block_zeroing
>      vg1-pooltry1_tdata: 0 20971520 linear 9:20 62922752
>      vg1-pooltry1_tmeta: 0 8192 linear 9:20 83894272
>      vg1-thinlv1: 0 31457280 thin 252:3 1
> 
> 
> and in dmesg:
> [   33.685200] device-mapper: thin: Discard unsupported by data
> device (dm-2): Disabling discard passdown.
> [   33.709586] device-mapper: thin: Discard unsupported by data
> device (dm-6): Disabling discard passdown.
> 
> 
> I do not know what is the mechanism for which xfs cannot unmap
> blocks from dm-thin, but it really can't.
> If anyone has dm-thin installed he can try. This is 100%
> reproducible for me.

I was initially surprised by this considering the thinp-test-suite does
test a compilebench workload against xfs and ext4 using online discard
(-o discard).

But I just modified that test to use a thin-pool with 'ignore_discard'
and the test still passed on both ext4 and xfs.

So there is more work needed in the thinp-test-suite to use blktrace
hooks to verify that discards are occuring when the compilebench
generated files are removed.

I'll work through that and report back.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-19 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-18 21:33 Ext4 and xfs problems in dm-thin on allocation and discard Spelic
2012-06-18 21:33 ` Spelic
2012-06-19  1:57 ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-19  1:57   ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-19  3:12   ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19  3:12     ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19  6:32     ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19  6:32       ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19 11:29       ` Spelic
2012-06-19 11:29         ` Spelic
2012-06-19 12:20         ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19 12:20           ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19 13:34         ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 13:34           ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 13:16       ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 13:16         ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 13:25         ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19 13:25           ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19 13:30           ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 13:30             ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 13:52             ` Spelic
2012-06-19 13:52               ` Spelic
2012-06-19 14:05               ` Eric Sandeen
2012-06-19 14:05                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-06-19 14:44               ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2012-06-19 14:44                 ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 18:48                 ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 18:48                   ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 20:06                   ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-19 20:06                     ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-19 20:21                     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-19 20:21                       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-19 20:39                       ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-19 20:39                         ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-20  9:01                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-06-20  9:01                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-06-19 21:37                     ` Spelic
2012-06-19 21:37                       ` Spelic
2012-06-19 23:12                       ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-19 23:12                         ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-20 12:11   ` Spelic
2012-06-20 12:11     ` Spelic
2012-06-20 22:53     ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-20 22:53       ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-21 17:47       ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-21 17:47         ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-21 23:29         ` Dave Chinner
2012-06-21 23:29           ` Dave Chinner
2012-07-01 14:53         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-01 14:53           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-02 13:00           ` Mike Snitzer
2012-07-02 13:00             ` Mike Snitzer
2012-07-02 13:15             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-02 13:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-19 14:09 ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19 14:09   ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19 14:19   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-19 14:19     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-19 14:23     ` Eric Sandeen
2012-06-19 14:23       ` Eric Sandeen
2012-06-19 14:37     ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19 14:37       ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-06-19 14:43     ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2012-06-19 14:43       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-06-19 15:28       ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 15:28         ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 16:03         ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2012-06-19 16:03           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2012-06-19 19:58         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-19 19:58           ` Ted Ts'o
2012-06-19 20:44           ` Mike Snitzer
2012-06-19 20:44             ` Mike Snitzer

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