From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 15/16] openvswitch: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:35:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029183510.GA21114@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121029182209.GB4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
* Tejun Heo (tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 02:16:48PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > This is just one example in an attempt to show why different hash table
> > users may have different constraints: for a hash table entirely
> > populated by keys generated internally by the kernel, a random seed
> > might not be required, but for cases where values are fed by user-space
> > and from the NIC, I would argue that flexibility to implement a
> > randomizable hash function beats implementation simplicity any time.
> >
> > And you could keep the basic use-case simple by providing hints to the
> > hash_32()/hash_64()/hash_ulong() helpers in comments.
>
> If all you need is throwing in a salt value to avoid attacks, can't
> you just do that from caller side? Scrambling the key before feeding
> it into hash_*() should work, no?
Yes, I think salting the "key" parameter would work.
Thanks,
Mathieu
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> tejun
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 15/16] openvswitch: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:35:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029183510.GA21114@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121029182209.GB4066@htj.dyndns.org>
* Tejun Heo (tj@kernel.org) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 02:16:48PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > This is just one example in an attempt to show why different hash table
> > users may have different constraints: for a hash table entirely
> > populated by keys generated internally by the kernel, a random seed
> > might not be required, but for cases where values are fed by user-space
> > and from the NIC, I would argue that flexibility to implement a
> > randomizable hash function beats implementation simplicity any time.
> >
> > And you could keep the basic use-case simple by providing hints to the
> > hash_32()/hash_64()/hash_ulong() helpers in comments.
>
> If all you need is throwing in a salt value to avoid attacks, can't
> you just do that from caller side? Scrambling the key before feeding
> it into hash_*() should work, no?
Yes, I think salting the "key" parameter would work.
Thanks,
Mathieu
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> tejun
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
paul.gortmaker@windriver.com, davem@davemloft.net,
rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@elte.hu, ebiederm@xmission.com,
aarcange@redhat.com, ericvh@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
josh@joshtriplett.org, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
agk@redhat.com, dm-devel@redhat.com, neilb@suse.de,
ccaulfie@redhat.com, teigland@redhat.com,
Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, bfields@fieldses.org,
fweisbec@gmail.com, jesse@nicira.com,
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rds-devel@oss.oracle.com, lw@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 15/16] openvswitch: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:35:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029183510.GA21114@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121029182209.GB4066@htj.dyndns.org>
* Tejun Heo (tj@kernel.org) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 02:16:48PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > This is just one example in an attempt to show why different hash table
> > users may have different constraints: for a hash table entirely
> > populated by keys generated internally by the kernel, a random seed
> > might not be required, but for cases where values are fed by user-space
> > and from the NIC, I would argue that flexibility to implement a
> > randomizable hash function beats implementation simplicity any time.
> >
> > And you could keep the basic use-case simple by providing hints to the
> > hash_32()/hash_64()/hash_ulong() helpers in comments.
>
> If all you need is throwing in a salt value to avoid attacks, can't
> you just do that from caller side? Scrambling the key before feeding
> it into hash_*() should work, no?
Yes, I think salting the "key" parameter would work.
Thanks,
Mathieu
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> tejun
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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2012-10-28 19:02 [PATCH v7 01/16] hashtable: introduce a small and naive hashtable Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 05/16] mm/huge_memory: use new hashtable implementation Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 06/16] tracepoint: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 11:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 11:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:29 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 17:29 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqce6uJ6wy3+2CBwsLHKnsz4wD0vt8MBEGKCFfXTvuC0Hg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 17:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:31 ` Josh Triplett
2012-10-29 18:31 ` Josh Triplett
2012-10-29 18:31 ` Josh Triplett
2012-10-29 18:42 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 18:42 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqfMrn9zDFMJNFfA0NA86wE_DedD97cP1yJ2UQdTjs3uyQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 18:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:58 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 18:58 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029185814.GC4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:01 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:01 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:01 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029190107.GD4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 19:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 19:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 19:09 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:09 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqcSx04JEXy2aPu4Qt7Zb4iSqXBSjARgMae_FusgzpgnaQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:12 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:12 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:12 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029191256.GE4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:17 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:17 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:17 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 08/16] block,elevator: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 1:29 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 1:29 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-8-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 12:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 09/16] SUNRPC/cache: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 12:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 14:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-29 14:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-29 14:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-29 15:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-29 15:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20121029151653.GC9502-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
[not found] ` <CA+55aFzO8DJJP3HBfgqXFac9r3=bYK+_nYe4cuXiNFg-623s6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 16:27 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-29 16:27 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-29 16:27 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 11/16] net,l2tp: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 13/16] lockd: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-13-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 13:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-1-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 02/16] userns: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] mm, ksm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] mm,ksm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 04/16] workqueue: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-4-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 1:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 1:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 1:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net, 9p: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net,9p: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-7-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 12:15 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net, 9p: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:15 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net,9p: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 10/16] dlm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-10-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 12:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:53 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 15:53 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 15:53 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:23 ` David Teigland
2012-10-29 16:23 ` David Teigland
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 12/16] dm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] net, rds: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] net,rds: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-14-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 13:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 15/16] openvswitch: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:43 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 15:43 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 15:43 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqfRGhPaBEVh228O5_295bWh8FmcyLSOwq8VE5Dm7i3JHg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 15:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:35 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 17:35 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqcr5xmOkDfqL3P84CNdotOALOhiLRkJjsPCZzijSQUF6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:22 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 18:22 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 18:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029182209.GB4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 18:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2012-10-29 18:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 16/16] tracing output: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 11:29 ` [PATCH v7 01/16] hashtable: introduce a small and naive hashtable Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 11:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:06 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:06 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 16:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 16:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 16:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:26 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:26 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqfBXM4sjvcZtUncnWAaUxA9_YBod3Hjx3ZO=K1oJO_j7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
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