From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/16] tracepoint: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:10:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029191042.GA21864@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121029190107.GD4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
* Tejun Heo (tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org) wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:58:14AM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 02:53:19PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > The argument about hash_init being useful to add magic values in the
> > > future only works for the cases where a hash table is declared with
> > > DECLARE_HASHTABLE(). It's completely pointless with DEFINE_HASHTABLE(),
> > > because we could initialize any debugging variables from within
> > > DEFINE_HASHTABLE().
> >
> > You can do that with [0 .. HASH_SIZE - 1] initializer.
>
> And in general, let's please try not to do optimizations which are
> pointless. Just stick to the usual semantics. You have an abstract
> data structure - invoke the initializer before using it. Sure,
> optimize it if it shows up somewhere. And here, if we do the
> initializers properly, it shouldn't cause any more actual overhead -
> ie. DEFINE_HASHTABLE() will basicallly boil down to all zero
> assignments and the compiler will put the whole thing in .bss anyway.
Yes, agreed. I was going too far in optimization land by proposing
assumptions on zeroed memory. All I actually really care about is that
we don't end up calling hash_init() on a statically defined (and thus
already initialized) hash table.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/16] tracepoint: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:10:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029191042.GA21864@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121029190107.GD4066@htj.dyndns.org>
* Tejun Heo (tj@kernel.org) wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:58:14AM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 02:53:19PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > The argument about hash_init being useful to add magic values in the
> > > future only works for the cases where a hash table is declared with
> > > DECLARE_HASHTABLE(). It's completely pointless with DEFINE_HASHTABLE(),
> > > because we could initialize any debugging variables from within
> > > DEFINE_HASHTABLE().
> >
> > You can do that with [0 .. HASH_SIZE - 1] initializer.
>
> And in general, let's please try not to do optimizations which are
> pointless. Just stick to the usual semantics. You have an abstract
> data structure - invoke the initializer before using it. Sure,
> optimize it if it shows up somewhere. And here, if we do the
> initializers properly, it shouldn't cause any more actual overhead -
> ie. DEFINE_HASHTABLE() will basicallly boil down to all zero
> assignments and the compiler will put the whole thing in .bss anyway.
Yes, agreed. I was going too far in optimization land by proposing
assumptions on zeroed memory. All I actually really care about is that
we don't end up calling hash_init() on a statically defined (and thus
already initialized) hash table.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
paul.gortmaker@windriver.com, davem@davemloft.net,
rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@elte.hu, ebiederm@xmission.com,
aarcange@redhat.com, ericvh@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
eric.dumazet@gmail.com, axboe@kernel.dk, agk@redhat.com,
dm-devel@redhat.com, neilb@suse.de, ccaulfie@redhat.com,
teigland@redhat.com, Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com,
bfields@fieldses.org, fweisbec@gmail.com, jesse@nicira.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/16] tracepoint: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:10:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029191042.GA21864@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121029190107.GD4066@htj.dyndns.org>
* Tejun Heo (tj@kernel.org) wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:58:14AM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 02:53:19PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > The argument about hash_init being useful to add magic values in the
> > > future only works for the cases where a hash table is declared with
> > > DECLARE_HASHTABLE(). It's completely pointless with DEFINE_HASHTABLE(),
> > > because we could initialize any debugging variables from within
> > > DEFINE_HASHTABLE().
> >
> > You can do that with [0 .. HASH_SIZE - 1] initializer.
>
> And in general, let's please try not to do optimizations which are
> pointless. Just stick to the usual semantics. You have an abstract
> data structure - invoke the initializer before using it. Sure,
> optimize it if it shows up somewhere. And here, if we do the
> initializers properly, it shouldn't cause any more actual overhead -
> ie. DEFINE_HASHTABLE() will basicallly boil down to all zero
> assignments and the compiler will put the whole thing in .bss anyway.
Yes, agreed. I was going too far in optimization land by proposing
assumptions on zeroed memory. All I actually really care about is that
we don't end up calling hash_init() on a statically defined (and thus
already initialized) hash table.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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2012-10-28 19:02 [PATCH v7 01/16] hashtable: introduce a small and naive hashtable Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-1-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 02/16] userns: use new hashtable implementation Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] mm, ksm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] mm,ksm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 04/16] workqueue: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-4-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 1:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 1:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 1:25 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net, 9p: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net,9p: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-7-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 12:15 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net, 9p: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:15 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net,9p: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 10/16] dlm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-10-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 12:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:53 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 15:53 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 15:53 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:23 ` David Teigland
2012-10-29 16:23 ` David Teigland
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 12/16] dm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] net, rds: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] net,rds: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-14-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 13:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 15/16] openvswitch: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:43 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 15:43 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 15:43 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqfRGhPaBEVh228O5_295bWh8FmcyLSOwq8VE5Dm7i3JHg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 15:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:35 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 17:35 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqcr5xmOkDfqL3P84CNdotOALOhiLRkJjsPCZzijSQUF6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:22 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 18:22 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 18:22 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029182209.GB4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 18:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 16/16] tracing output: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 05/16] mm/huge_memory: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 06/16] tracepoint: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 11:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 11:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:29 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 17:29 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqce6uJ6wy3+2CBwsLHKnsz4wD0vt8MBEGKCFfXTvuC0Hg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 17:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:31 ` Josh Triplett
2012-10-29 18:31 ` Josh Triplett
2012-10-29 18:31 ` Josh Triplett
2012-10-29 18:42 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 18:42 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqfMrn9zDFMJNFfA0NA86wE_DedD97cP1yJ2UQdTjs3uyQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 18:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:58 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 18:58 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029185814.GC4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:01 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:01 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:01 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029190107.GD4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2012-10-29 19:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 19:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 19:09 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:09 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqcSx04JEXy2aPu4Qt7Zb4iSqXBSjARgMae_FusgzpgnaQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:12 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:12 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:12 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20121029191256.GE4066-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 19:17 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:17 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:17 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 08/16] block,elevator: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 1:29 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 1:29 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-8-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 12:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 09/16] SUNRPC/cache: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 12:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 12:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 14:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-29 14:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-29 14:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-29 15:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-29 15:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20121029151653.GC9502-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
[not found] ` <CA+55aFzO8DJJP3HBfgqXFac9r3=bYK+_nYe4cuXiNFg-623s6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 16:27 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-29 16:27 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-29 16:27 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 11/16] net,l2tp: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 13/16] lockd: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1351450948-15618-13-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 13:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 11:29 ` [PATCH v7 01/16] hashtable: introduce a small and naive hashtable Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 11:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:06 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:06 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 16:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 16:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 16:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:26 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:26 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CA+1xoqfBXM4sjvcZtUncnWAaUxA9_YBod3Hjx3ZO=K1oJO_j7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-29 16:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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