From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Tim Hockin <thockin-Rl2oBbRerpQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Workman-devel] cgroup: status-quo and userland efforts
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:49:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130715184940.GG27338@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130630183838.GB23731-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 08:38:38PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 28-06-13 14:01:55, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 05:05:13PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > OK, so libcgroup's rules daemon will still work and place my tasks in
> > > appropriate cgroups?
> >
> > Do you use that daemon in practice?
>
> I am not but my users do. And that is why I care.
Michael,
would you have more details of how those users are exactly using
rules engine daemon.
To me rulesengined processed 3 kinds of rules.
- uid based
- gid based
- exec file path based
uid/gid based rule exection can be taken care by pam_cgroup module too.
So I think one should not need cgrulesengined for that.
I am curious what kind of exec rules are useful. Any placement of
services one can do using systemd. So only executables we are left
to manage are which are not services.
In practice is it very useful for an admin to say if "firefox" is launched
by a user then it should run in xyz cgroup. And if user cares about
firefox running in a sub cgroup, then it can always use cgexec to do
that.
Thanks
Vivek
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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Tim Hockin <thockin@hockin.org>,
Mike Galbraith <bitbucket@online.de>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
lpoetter <lpoetter@redhat.com>,
workman-devel <workman-devel@redhat.com>,
"dhaval.giani" <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
bsingharora <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Workman-devel] cgroup: status-quo and userland efforts
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:49:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130715184940.GG27338@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130630183838.GB23731@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 08:38:38PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 28-06-13 14:01:55, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 05:05:13PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > OK, so libcgroup's rules daemon will still work and place my tasks in
> > > appropriate cgroups?
> >
> > Do you use that daemon in practice?
>
> I am not but my users do. And that is why I care.
Michael,
would you have more details of how those users are exactly using
rules engine daemon.
To me rulesengined processed 3 kinds of rules.
- uid based
- gid based
- exec file path based
uid/gid based rule exection can be taken care by pam_cgroup module too.
So I think one should not need cgrulesengined for that.
I am curious what kind of exec rules are useful. Any placement of
services one can do using systemd. So only executables we are left
to manage are which are not services.
In practice is it very useful for an admin to say if "firefox" is launched
by a user then it should run in xyz cgroup. And if user cares about
firefox running in a sub cgroup, then it can always use cgexec to do
that.
Thanks
Vivek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-15 18:49 UTC|newest]
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2013-04-06 1:21 cgroup: status-quo and userland efforts Tejun Heo
2013-04-06 1:21 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130406012159.GA17159-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 13:46 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-08 13:46 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <5162CA21.4060108-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 18:00 ` [Workman-devel] " Vivek Goyal
2013-04-08 18:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-08 18:26 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08 18:26 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08 23:32 ` Lennart Poettering
2013-04-08 23:32 ` Lennart Poettering
[not found] ` <51635371.7070104-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09 7:37 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09 7:37 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09 7:37 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09 19:11 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 19:11 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08 23:32 ` Lennart Poettering
2013-04-08 17:59 ` [Workman-devel] " Vivek Goyal
2013-04-08 17:59 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20130408175925.GE28292-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 18:16 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08 18:16 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130408181607.GI3021-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 18:49 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08 18:49 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08 19:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-08 19:11 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20130408191105.GG28292-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 19:20 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08 19:20 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130408192024.GL3021-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 19:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-08 19:46 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20130408194630.GH28292-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-08 20:02 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08 20:02 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-08 20:02 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 9:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-04-09 9:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
[not found] ` <20130409095024.GI25576-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09 19:38 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 19:38 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130409193851.GJ6186-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09 19:46 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 19:46 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130409194640.GK6186-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-09 21:04 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-04-09 21:04 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-04-09 21:11 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 21:11 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-09 21:11 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-16 11:17 ` Li Zefan
2013-04-16 11:17 ` Li Zefan
[not found] ` <516D333D.4040703-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-16 17:10 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-16 17:10 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130416171056.GA2874-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-17 1:29 ` Li Zefan
2013-04-17 1:29 ` Li Zefan
2013-04-17 1:29 ` Li Zefan
2013-04-16 11:17 ` Li Zefan
2013-04-22 21:26 ` Tim Hockin
2013-04-22 21:26 ` Tim Hockin
2013-04-22 21:26 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwvh_R2Xz--bmSLiN33fsqKanOJMq_6+6hoFWFRx38O4gA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-22 21:41 ` Tejun Heo
2013-04-22 21:41 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130422214159.GG12543-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-22 22:33 ` Tim Hockin
2013-04-22 22:33 ` Tim Hockin
2013-04-22 22:33 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwuXJwwyj7KSqb7rZ+nrTwBWEaUCWfa7kWecTBnHL8koGw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-22 23:13 ` Tim Hockin
2013-06-22 23:13 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwvP_7wBBYMmtFuiE2hZt=ByaLrnTyiR83CZr3OMip63Gg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-25 0:01 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-25 0:01 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130625000118.GT1918-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-25 4:07 ` Tim Hockin
2013-06-25 4:07 ` Tim Hockin
2013-06-25 4:07 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwt09k-qUwLCnMpAQeYJ-S0XtkjXe4=bJ-G_fcrkAqEzoA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-26 21:20 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-26 21:20 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130626212047.GB4536-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 0:06 ` Tim Hockin
2013-06-27 0:06 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZws1qkSik4G4pRr7z+067Jp9-jHfpx9-euqbvmdHjoN_Zg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-26 23:14 ` David Lang
2013-06-27 1:04 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27 1:04 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130627010427.GF4536-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 3:42 ` Tim Hockin
2013-06-27 3:42 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwsMT7FRccyVxSn77GR8+9JsSeqmDO6oOy7ycNCY7Desnw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 17:38 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27 17:38 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130627173809.GB5599-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 20:46 ` Tim Hockin
2013-06-27 20:46 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwvabGRsce43ymru7OBr0LX93DRnTVkzn-nhahTR6yMUZw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 21:04 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27 21:04 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130627210445.GA22860-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-28 18:44 ` Tim Hockin
2013-06-28 18:44 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwtOnpATCmRcOpsXaLZ8sQDs2Z=iZb8FrqG=bajNAOBnRg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-29 16:40 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-29 16:40 ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-03 21:53 ` Luke Leighton
2013-06-27 20:46 ` Tim Hockin
2015-03-03 21:38 ` Luke Leighton
2015-03-03 21:17 ` Luke Leighton
2015-03-04 5:08 ` David Lang
2015-03-04 11:27 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2015-03-04 20:08 ` David Lang
2013-06-26 23:14 ` David Lang
2013-06-27 0:06 ` Tim Hockin
2013-06-27 5:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-06-27 5:45 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <1372311907.5871.78.camel-YqMYhexLQo31wTEvPJ5Q0F6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 13:22 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-06-27 13:22 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-06-27 15:29 ` Tim Hockin
2013-06-27 15:29 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwt9QdddFrEjvdBsi3sbQXScKyzY=vZpYXqTwjGUebH1Ag-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 16:18 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-06-27 16:18 ` Serge Hallyn
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2013-06-27 17:48 ` Tejun Heo
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[not found] ` <20130627174850.GC5599-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 18:14 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-06-27 18:14 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-06-27 18:45 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27 18:45 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130627184541.GA6400-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-27 18:51 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-06-27 18:51 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-06-27 18:51 ` Serge Hallyn
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2013-06-27 18:52 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27 18:52 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27 20:52 ` Tim Hockin
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2013-06-27 18:14 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-03-03 22:08 ` Luke Leighton
2013-06-28 9:09 ` [Workman-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
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[not found] ` <20130628090910.GB2507-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-28 15:53 ` Serge Hallyn
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[not found] ` <20130627180143.GD5599-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-28 3:46 ` Mike Galbraith
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[not found] ` <1372391198.5989.110.camel-YqMYhexLQo31wTEvPJ5Q0F6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-28 4:09 ` Tejun Heo
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[not found] ` <20130628040930.GC2500-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-28 4:49 ` Mike Galbraith
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[not found] ` <1372394950.5989.128.camel-YqMYhexLQo31wTEvPJ5Q0F6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-28 5:01 ` Tejun Heo
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[not found] ` <20130628050138.GD2500-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-28 6:00 ` Mike Galbraith
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[not found] ` <20130628150513.GD5125-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-28 18:01 ` [Workman-devel] " Vivek Goyal
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[not found] ` <20130628180155.GD16483-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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[not found] ` <20130628195917.GG2507-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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