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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	luto@amacapital.net, xemul@parallels.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mpm@selenic.com,
	xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com, sfr@canb.auug.org.au,
	peterz@infradead.org, aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] [PATCH] mm: Save soft-dirty bits on swapped pages
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:16:32 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130801061632.GE19540@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130801055303.GA1764@moon>

On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 09:53:03AM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 09:51:32AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > Index: linux-2.6.git/include/linux/swapops.h
> > > ===================================================================
> > > --- linux-2.6.git.orig/include/linux/swapops.h
> > > +++ linux-2.6.git/include/linux/swapops.h
> > > @@ -67,6 +67,8 @@ static inline swp_entry_t pte_to_swp_ent
> > >  	swp_entry_t arch_entry;
> > >  
> > >  	BUG_ON(pte_file(pte));
> > > +	if (pte_swp_soft_dirty(pte))
> > > +		pte = pte_swp_clear_soft_dirty(pte);
> > 
> > Why do you remove soft-dirty flag whenever pte_to_swp_entry is called?
> > Isn't there any problem if we use mincore?
> 
> No, there is no problem. pte_to_swp_entry caller when we know that pte
> we're decoding is having swap format (except the case in swap code which
> figures out the number of bits allowed for offset). Still since this bit
> is set on "higher" level than __swp_type/__swp_offset helpers it should
> be cleaned before the value from pte comes to "one level down" helpers
> function.

I don't get it. Could you correct me with below example?

Process A context
        try_to_unmap
                swp_pte = swp_entry_to_pte /* change generic swp into arch swap */
                swp_pte = pte_swp_mksoft_dirty(swp_pte);
                set_pte_at(, swp_pte);

Process A context
        ..
        mincore_pte_range
                pte_to_swp_entry
                        pte = pte_swp_clear_soft_dirty  <=== 1)
                        change arch swp with generic swp
                mincore_page 

Process B want to know dirty state of the page
        ..
        pagemap_read
        pte_to_pagemap_entry
        is_swap_pte
                if (pte_swap_soft_dirty(pte)) <=== but failed by 1)

So, Process B can't get the dirty status from process A's the page.

> 
> > > +static inline int maybe_same_pte(pte_t pte, pte_t swp_pte)
> > 
> > Nitpick.
> > If maybe_same_pte is used widely, it looks good to me
> > but it's used for only swapoff at the moment so I think pte_swap_same
> > would be better name.
> 
> I don't see much difference, but sure, lets rename it on top once series
> in -mm tree, sounds good?
> 
> 	Cyrill
> 
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Minchan Kim

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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	luto@amacapital.net, xemul@parallels.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mpm@selenic.com,
	xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com, sfr@canb.auug.org.au,
	peterz@infradead.org, aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] [PATCH] mm: Save soft-dirty bits on swapped pages
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:16:32 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130801061632.GE19540@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130801055303.GA1764@moon>

On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 09:53:03AM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 09:51:32AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > Index: linux-2.6.git/include/linux/swapops.h
> > > ===================================================================
> > > --- linux-2.6.git.orig/include/linux/swapops.h
> > > +++ linux-2.6.git/include/linux/swapops.h
> > > @@ -67,6 +67,8 @@ static inline swp_entry_t pte_to_swp_ent
> > >  	swp_entry_t arch_entry;
> > >  
> > >  	BUG_ON(pte_file(pte));
> > > +	if (pte_swp_soft_dirty(pte))
> > > +		pte = pte_swp_clear_soft_dirty(pte);
> > 
> > Why do you remove soft-dirty flag whenever pte_to_swp_entry is called?
> > Isn't there any problem if we use mincore?
> 
> No, there is no problem. pte_to_swp_entry caller when we know that pte
> we're decoding is having swap format (except the case in swap code which
> figures out the number of bits allowed for offset). Still since this bit
> is set on "higher" level than __swp_type/__swp_offset helpers it should
> be cleaned before the value from pte comes to "one level down" helpers
> function.

I don't get it. Could you correct me with below example?

Process A context
        try_to_unmap
                swp_pte = swp_entry_to_pte /* change generic swp into arch swap */
                swp_pte = pte_swp_mksoft_dirty(swp_pte);
                set_pte_at(, swp_pte);

Process A context
        ..
        mincore_pte_range
                pte_to_swp_entry
                        pte = pte_swp_clear_soft_dirty  <=== 1)
                        change arch swp with generic swp
                mincore_page 

Process B want to know dirty state of the page
        ..
        pagemap_read
        pte_to_pagemap_entry
        is_swap_pte
                if (pte_swap_soft_dirty(pte)) <=== but failed by 1)

So, Process B can't get the dirty status from process A's the page.

> 
> > > +static inline int maybe_same_pte(pte_t pte, pte_t swp_pte)
> > 
> > Nitpick.
> > If maybe_same_pte is used widely, it looks good to me
> > but it's used for only swapoff at the moment so I think pte_swap_same
> > would be better name.
> 
> I don't see much difference, but sure, lets rename it on top once series
> in -mm tree, sounds good?
> 
> 	Cyrill
> 
> --
> To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
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-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-01  6:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-30 20:41 [patch 0/2] Soft-dirty page tracker improvemens Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-30 20:41 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-30 20:41 ` [patch 1/2] [PATCH] mm: Save soft-dirty bits on swapped pages Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-30 20:41   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-31  8:16   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-07-31  8:16     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-08-01  0:51   ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-01  0:51     ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-01  5:53     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-01  5:53       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-01  6:16       ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2013-08-01  6:16         ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-01  6:28         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-01  6:28           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-01  6:37           ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-01  6:37             ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-01  6:38             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-01  6:38               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-05  1:48   ` Wanpeng Li
2013-08-05  1:48   ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]   ` <51ff047d.2768310a.2fc4.340fSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2013-08-05  2:17     ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-05  2:17       ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-05  2:38       ` Wanpeng Li
2013-08-05  2:38       ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]       ` <51ff1053.ab47310a.5d3f.566cSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2013-08-05  2:54         ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-05  2:54           ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-05  2:58           ` Wanpeng Li
2013-08-05  2:58           ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]           ` <51ff14e9.87ef440a.1424.ffffe470SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2013-08-05  5:43             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-05  5:43               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-07 20:21   ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-07 20:21     ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-07 20:29     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-07 20:29       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-10 17:48     ` James Bottomley
2013-08-10 17:48       ` James Bottomley
2013-07-30 20:41 ` [patch 2/2] [PATCH] mm: Save soft-dirty bits on file pages Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-30 20:41   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-07-31  8:16   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-07-31  8:16     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-08-07 20:28   ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-07 20:28     ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-07 20:31     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-07 20:31       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-08 14:51     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-12 21:57       ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-12 21:57         ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-12 22:28         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-12 22:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-12 22:37           ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-12 22:37             ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-13  5:02           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-13  5:02             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-13 15:14             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 15:14               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 15:37               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-13 15:37                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-13 16:43                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 16:43                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 21:28                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-08-13 21:28                     ` Cyrill Gorcunov

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