From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: grub-devel@gnu.org, keir@xen.org, david.woodhouse@intel.com,
stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com,
Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
ross.philipson@citrix.com, richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:26:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131022162632.GB19189@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382455358.18283.31.camel@hastur.hellion.org.uk>
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 04:22:38PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 15:24 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 10:09 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >
> > > So it can be booted the same way as xen.efi. But my understanding is
> > > that folks prefer a bootloader instead of loading the bzImage in an
> > > NVRAM of a platform with pre-set parameters. Hence that mechanism
> > > is not used by the majority of users.
> >
> > My understanding is that they prefer a bootloader which can launch Linux
> > as a PE/COFF image, i.e. the linuxefi thing.
>
> What I'm trying to say here is that from the xen.efi or linux.efi point
> of view it can't tell if it was launched directly from the EFI shell or
> by some intermediate bootloader (i.e. by grub2's linuxefi command).
It can (at least in Linux). There are two entry points in the Linux kernel
and - one when it is launched from 'linuxefi' (See efi_stub_entry in
arch/x86/boot/compressed/head_64.S), the other when it is launched
from an EFI shell - see efi_pe_entry in arch/x86/boot/compressed/head_64.S.
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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: grub-devel@gnu.org, keir@xen.org, david.woodhouse@intel.com,
stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com,
Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
ross.philipson@citrix.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:26:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131022162632.GB19189@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382455358.18283.31.camel@hastur.hellion.org.uk>
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 04:22:38PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 15:24 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 10:09 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >
> > > So it can be booted the same way as xen.efi. But my understanding is
> > > that folks prefer a bootloader instead of loading the bzImage in an
> > > NVRAM of a platform with pre-set parameters. Hence that mechanism
> > > is not used by the majority of users.
> >
> > My understanding is that they prefer a bootloader which can launch Linux
> > as a PE/COFF image, i.e. the linuxefi thing.
>
> What I'm trying to say here is that from the xen.efi or linux.efi point
> of view it can't tell if it was launched directly from the EFI shell or
> by some intermediate bootloader (i.e. by grub2's linuxefi command).
It can (at least in Linux). There are two entry points in the Linux kernel
and - one when it is launched from 'linuxefi' (See efi_stub_entry in
arch/x86/boot/compressed/head_64.S), the other when it is launched
from an EFI shell - see efi_pe_entry in arch/x86/boot/compressed/head_64.S.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-22 16:27 UTC|newest]
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2013-10-21 12:57 EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:37 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:37 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:46 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:46 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 7:16 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 7:16 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 7:16 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:37 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:39 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:39 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:39 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 7:15 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 7:15 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 7:15 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 18:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 9:26 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:26 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:26 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:31 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:31 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:31 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 13:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 15:35 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:35 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:35 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:39 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 15:39 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:39 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 14:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:22 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:22 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:22 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-10-22 16:26 ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 8:32 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 8:32 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 8:32 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 13:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 13:13 ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 13:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 14:07 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 14:07 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:13 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 17:13 ` [Xen-devel] " Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 17:13 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 14:07 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 16:17 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:17 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:17 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:01 ` [Xen-devel] " Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-24 6:53 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-24 6:53 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-10-24 6:53 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:10 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:18 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:18 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:21 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:21 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:27 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:27 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:27 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:21 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:18 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:25 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:25 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:42 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:42 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 16:01 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:01 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:01 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:08 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:08 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:25 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:25 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:25 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:38 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:38 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:38 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:08 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:36 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 16:51 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:51 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:09 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:09 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:09 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:21 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 17:21 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-23 7:53 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:53 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:53 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:21 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 16:51 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:36 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 15:42 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 16:35 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:35 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:35 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 6:49 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:49 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:49 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:51 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:51 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:51 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-22 15:25 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 6:56 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 6:56 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 6:56 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 9:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-21 18:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 8:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 8:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:05 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:05 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 8:28 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 8:28 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 8:28 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 10:43 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 10:43 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 10:43 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:05 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-28 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 18:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 18:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-29 8:28 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-29 8:28 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-29 8:28 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-30 11:19 ` Is: Wrap-up Was: " Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:19 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:19 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:38 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-30 11:38 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-30 11:38 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-04 20:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-04 20:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-04 20:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-05 19:15 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-05 19:15 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-05 19:15 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-10-28 18:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 18:42 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-28 18:42 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-28 18:42 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-22 8:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:12 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:12 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:12 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:20 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:20 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:20 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 8:44 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 8:44 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 8:44 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
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