From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: "Woodhouse, David" <david.woodhouse@intel.com>
Cc: "grub-devel@gnu.org" <grub-devel@gnu.org>,
"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>,
Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
"stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com"
<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"ross.philipson@citrix.com" <ross.philipson@citrix.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
"Maliszewski, Richard L" <richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:35:02 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131022163502.GD19189@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382455537.8512.11.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 03:25:39PM +0000, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 10:43 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >
> > And looking at bit deeper in the x86/linux boot spec:
> >
> > **** EFI HANDOVER PROTOCOL
> >
> > This protocol allows boot loaders to defer initialisation to the EFI
> > boot stub. The boot loader is required to load the kernel/initrd(s)
> > from the boot media and jump to the EFI handover protocol entry point
> > which is hdr->handover_offset bytes from the beginning of
> > startup_{32,64}.
>
> Oh, ignore that. You want the *actual* PE executable entry point, as it
> would get invoked by a real UEFI firmware.
Right. The Xen hypervisor can be built in two images: a standard PE/COFF
that can be executed from the EFI shell, and an multiboot blob that can
be loaded by multiboot compatible boot loaders (like GRUB).
>
> I thought that's what Grub invoked, for 'linuxefi'. Perhaps I mean a
> chainloader method of some kind instead. Either way, make Grub (or
> whatever bootloader you choose) load it as an EFI executable.
Looks like chainloader was it from Peter's answer. But then you can't
do SecureBoot <sigh>.
>
> Seriously, forget Grub for now. Grub is mostly just an exercise in
> gratuitously doing things the difficult way and wondering why it's
> fragile.
>
> Make your code work as an EFI executable when loaded directly from the
> UEFI firmware. Worry about the insanity of grub later.
That has been done by Jan. Now we are at the 'have a shim that launches
GRUB2, now what?'
>
>
> --
> Sent with MeeGo's ActiveSync support.
>
> David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
> David.Woodhouse@intel.com Intel Corporation
>
>
>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: "Woodhouse, David" <david.woodhouse@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
"ross.philipson@citrix.com" <ross.philipson@citrix.com>,
"stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com"
<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
"grub-devel@gnu.org" <grub-devel@gnu.org>,
"Maliszewski, Richard L" <richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:35:02 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131022163502.GD19189@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382455537.8512.11.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 03:25:39PM +0000, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 10:43 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >
> > And looking at bit deeper in the x86/linux boot spec:
> >
> > **** EFI HANDOVER PROTOCOL
> >
> > This protocol allows boot loaders to defer initialisation to the EFI
> > boot stub. The boot loader is required to load the kernel/initrd(s)
> > from the boot media and jump to the EFI handover protocol entry point
> > which is hdr->handover_offset bytes from the beginning of
> > startup_{32,64}.
>
> Oh, ignore that. You want the *actual* PE executable entry point, as it
> would get invoked by a real UEFI firmware.
Right. The Xen hypervisor can be built in two images: a standard PE/COFF
that can be executed from the EFI shell, and an multiboot blob that can
be loaded by multiboot compatible boot loaders (like GRUB).
>
> I thought that's what Grub invoked, for 'linuxefi'. Perhaps I mean a
> chainloader method of some kind instead. Either way, make Grub (or
> whatever bootloader you choose) load it as an EFI executable.
Looks like chainloader was it from Peter's answer. But then you can't
do SecureBoot <sigh>.
>
> Seriously, forget Grub for now. Grub is mostly just an exercise in
> gratuitously doing things the difficult way and wondering why it's
> fragile.
>
> Make your code work as an EFI executable when loaded directly from the
> UEFI firmware. Worry about the insanity of grub later.
That has been done by Jan. Now we are at the 'have a shim that launches
GRUB2, now what?'
>
>
> --
> Sent with MeeGo's ActiveSync support.
>
> David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
> David.Woodhouse@intel.com Intel Corporation
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-22 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 238+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-21 12:57 EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 14:37 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:37 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 14:37 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:46 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 7:16 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 7:16 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 7:16 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 18:46 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 14:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 18:39 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:39 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:39 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 7:15 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 7:15 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 7:15 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 18:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-21 18:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 9:26 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:26 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:31 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:31 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:31 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:45 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 9:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 9:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 13:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 13:53 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:59 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 15:35 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:35 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:35 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-22 15:39 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 15:39 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:39 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 14:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:22 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:22 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:22 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 8:32 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 8:32 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 8:32 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-23 13:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 13:13 ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 13:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 14:07 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 14:07 ` [Xen-devel] " Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 14:07 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:13 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 17:13 ` [Xen-devel] " Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 17:13 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-23 16:17 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:17 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:17 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 17:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-24 6:53 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-24 6:53 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-10-24 6:53 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-23 17:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:10 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:10 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-22 14:18 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:18 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:18 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 14:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:21 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:21 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:27 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:27 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:27 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:21 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 14:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 14:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 15:25 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:25 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:25 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 15:42 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:42 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 15:42 ` Woodhouse, David
2013-10-22 16:01 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:01 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:08 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:08 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:14 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:25 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:25 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:31 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:25 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:38 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:38 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:38 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:08 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:24 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 16:36 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 16:51 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:51 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:09 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:09 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:09 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:21 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 17:21 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-23 7:53 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:53 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:53 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 17:21 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 16:51 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 16:36 ` Maliszewski, Richard L
2013-10-22 16:01 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 15:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-10-22 16:35 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 16:35 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-10-22 16:35 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 6:49 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:49 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:49 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:51 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:51 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-23 6:51 ` Michael Chang
2013-10-22 14:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-23 6:56 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 6:56 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 6:56 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-22 9:26 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-21 13:54 ` Peter Jones
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:27 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 20:53 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-21 21:16 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 8:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 8:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:05 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:05 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 8:28 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 8:28 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 8:28 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-23 10:43 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 10:43 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 10:43 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:05 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-28 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 18:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 18:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-29 8:28 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-29 8:28 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-30 11:19 ` Is: Wrap-up Was: " Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:19 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-30 11:38 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-30 11:38 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-30 11:38 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-11-04 20:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-04 20:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-04 20:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-05 19:15 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-05 19:15 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-05 19:15 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-10-30 11:19 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-29 8:28 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-28 18:01 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-28 18:42 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-28 18:42 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-28 18:42 ` Seth Goldberg
2013-10-28 16:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-22 8:54 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:12 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:12 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:12 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-10-22 17:20 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:20 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-22 17:20 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 7:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 7:43 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-10-23 8:44 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 8:44 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-10-23 8:44 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-10-21 12:57 Daniel Kiper
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20131022163502.GD19189@phenom.dumpdata.com \
--to=konrad.wilk@oracle.com \
--cc=JBeulich@suse.com \
--cc=boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com \
--cc=daniel.kiper@oracle.com \
--cc=david.woodhouse@intel.com \
--cc=grub-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=ian.campbell@citrix.com \
--cc=keir@xen.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com \
--cc=ross.philipson@citrix.com \
--cc=stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com \
--cc=xen-devel@lists.xen.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.