From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ACPI vs DT at runtime
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:46:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201311181646.19070.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131118151900.GF16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Monday 18 November 2013, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > Can you point to specific patches?
>
> No, because they weren't publically posted, so I don't feel that I can
> say all that much; they were from quite a large company though.
I see.
> > I can't say I'm an expert on this, but everything I've seen with ACPI
> > is tables of binary data with four-letter identifiers that are defined
> > by the ACPI group, but not using strings in a similar manner to DT.
>
> They are using strings which are the same as the DT properties, but
> without the vendor prefix - but yes, to only retrieve things like
> booleans, u32s and such like. They also have support for fixed-rate
> clocks via the clk API too...
>
> I'd like them to post the patches publically so a more open discussion
> could occur.
I'd definitely like that too, especially since managing clocks etc.
is (as multiple people have pointed out in this thread) a very
un-ACPI-like thing to do and it would be important for them to have
the debate whether that has a chance of getting accepted in the kernel
(or the ACPI spec, for that matter) or not.
Arnd
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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ACPI vs DT at runtime
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:46:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201311181646.19070.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131118151900.GF16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Monday 18 November 2013, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > Can you point to specific patches?
>
> No, because they weren't publically posted, so I don't feel that I can
> say all that much; they were from quite a large company though.
I see.
> > I can't say I'm an expert on this, but everything I've seen with ACPI
> > is tables of binary data with four-letter identifiers that are defined
> > by the ACPI group, but not using strings in a similar manner to DT.
>
> They are using strings which are the same as the DT properties, but
> without the vendor prefix - but yes, to only retrieve things like
> booleans, u32s and such like. They also have support for fixed-rate
> clocks via the clk API too...
>
> I'd like them to post the patches publically so a more open discussion
> could occur.
I'd definitely like that too, especially since managing clocks etc.
is (as multiple people have pointed out in this thread) a very
un-ACPI-like thing to do and it would be important for them to have
the debate whether that has a chance of getting accepted in the kernel
(or the ACPI spec, for that matter) or not.
Arnd
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2013-11-15 1:44 ACPI vs DT at runtime Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 1:44 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 9:57 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-15 9:57 ` Mark Rutland
[not found] ` <20131115175241. GB27174@quad.lixom.net>
2013-11-15 17:52 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 17:52 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 18:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-15 18:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-15 18:42 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 18:42 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 19:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-15 19:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-15 23:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-15 23:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 15:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 15:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 15:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 15:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 15:46 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2013-11-18 15:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 16:11 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:11 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:10 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:10 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 18:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 18:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 19:40 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-21 19:40 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-21 16:00 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:00 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-15 18:13 ` David Goodenough
2013-11-21 16:15 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 17:47 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 17:47 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-19 11:30 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 11:30 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 11:35 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 11:35 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 11:51 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-19 11:51 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-19 11:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 11:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 13:56 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-19 13:56 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-19 14:38 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 14:38 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 14:59 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-19 14:59 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-19 18:23 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 18:23 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 14:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 14:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 15:21 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 15:21 ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 16:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 16:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 18:34 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 18:34 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 19:06 ` Tom Rini
2013-11-19 19:06 ` Tom Rini
2013-11-19 18:19 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 18:19 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 16:37 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:37 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 17:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 17:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 18:38 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 18:38 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 17:58 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 17:58 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 18:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 18:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 18:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21 18:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` < CAOesGMgzUSMDy99XojipfRd5OM88UhfbCYO0aoc5m-Q8Fwnddg@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` < 20131121190126.GZ16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
2013-11-21 18:59 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 18:59 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 19:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21 19:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21 19:31 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 19:31 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 20:44 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 20:44 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 18:53 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-21 18:53 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-15 18:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-11-15 18:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-11-15 18:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-15 18:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 5:19 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 5:26 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 19:25 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 19:25 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 20:43 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 20:43 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 21:25 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 21:25 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 7:22 ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-18 13:55 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-18 15:00 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 19:13 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 19:13 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 9:12 ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-19 9:12 ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-19 18:48 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 18:48 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-20 6:40 ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-20 6:40 ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-21 18:16 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 18:16 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 19:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21 19:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21 20:47 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 20:47 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-22 11:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-22 11:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-22 12:00 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2013-11-22 12:00 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-05 7:06 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-05 7:06 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-05 14:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-05 14:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-05 15:29 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-05 15:29 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-05 17:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-05 17:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-06 15:37 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-06 15:37 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-06 15:27 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-06 15:27 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-06 16:32 ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-06 16:32 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 15:28 ` Rob Herring
2013-11-18 19:09 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 19:09 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 20:54 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 20:54 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 21:50 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 21:50 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 21:32 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 21:32 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 22:47 ` David Goodenough
2013-11-19 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 13:34 ` David Goodenough
2013-11-19 16:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 18:23 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-19 14:33 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 13:49 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 13:49 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 17:43 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-20 17:43 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-20 17:47 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-20 17:47 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 20:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-15 20:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-15 21:44 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 21:44 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-17 17:18 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-17 17:18 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-17 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-17 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` < CAOesGMiYyOcvr3Aqs-p8zc=XDwJM9NZtNxtxrTZssc6F=siZCw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-17 22:20 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-17 22:20 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 8:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 8:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 17:33 ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 17:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 19:21 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 19:21 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 18:26 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 15:04 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 15:04 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 15:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 15:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 21:38 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 21:38 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 23:25 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-18 23:25 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-18 23:29 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 23:29 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 23:34 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-18 23:34 ` Leif Lindholm
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