From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] nuke password to delete luks header
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:12:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140117131209.GA27651@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52D9257E.6000906@freesources.org>
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 13:43:42 CET, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> Am 16.01.2014 21:18, schrieb Matthias Schniedermeyer:
> > On 16.01.2014 20:33, Milan Broz wrote:
> >>
> >> But I cannot say that all possible situations comes under this qualification.
> >> Maybe it can help someone in dangerous situation to not leak some important data
> >> which later help others. Dunno.
> >>
> >> Still it doesn't mean it is worth to be implemented but let's think
> >> at least twice here please.
> >
> > Meanwhile increasing the risk of everybody else, because once that
> > feature is a documented part of the system everybody will assume that
> > everybody will use it. Good look defending against a "Destruction of
> > Evidence" accusation, in case that happens in a situation with a LEO.
> >
> > Same as the hidden volume "feature" of Truecypt which everybody will
> > assume you use, because it's such a swell feature. (Plausible
> > deniabilty? Yeah sure <snort>)
> >
> >
> > In short:
> > The documented existence of such a feature is a risk by itself.
>
> Same logic applied, even the existence of this discussion is a risk by
> itself. It proves that people might use a patched cryptsetup with added
> nuke feature already.
>
> Kind regards,
> jonas
Yes, it is. That is one of the reasons why I strongly recommend
not taking ecrypted data into danger at all and making sure all
unused space on storage media is zeroed.
However, the risk gets more serious if it is a standard feature.
Arno
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-14 2:10 [dm-crypt] nuke password to delete luks header Jim O'Gorman
2014-01-14 2:41 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 2:52 ` Jim O'Gorman
2014-01-14 4:04 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 4:36 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 5:00 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 7:11 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 12:05 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 14:34 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 19:22 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-15 19:36 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-16 11:50 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 4:30 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 5:01 ` Jim O'Gorman
2014-01-14 7:39 ` [dm-crypt] Re2: " Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 22:42 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-15 6:01 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-15 10:00 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-15 10:47 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-15 11:39 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-15 12:40 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-15 12:59 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-15 13:38 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-15 20:27 ` [dm-crypt] " Milan Broz
2014-01-16 9:50 ` Ondrej Kozina
2014-01-16 10:30 ` Thomas Bastiani
2014-01-16 13:09 ` Florian Junghanns
2014-01-16 19:33 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-16 20:09 ` helices
2014-01-16 20:11 ` Iggy
2014-01-16 21:36 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-16 21:55 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 22:49 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-17 8:17 ` Thomas Bastiani
2014-01-17 23:18 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-18 8:43 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-18 12:42 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-18 19:18 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 20:18 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-16 20:28 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-16 21:02 ` Brian
2014-01-16 21:24 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 20:59 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-16 21:43 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-17 12:43 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-17 13:12 ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2014-01-17 14:27 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-17 15:16 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-17 14:32 ` Rick Moritz
2014-01-17 14:32 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-17 14:57 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-17 14:51 ` Heiko Rosemann
2014-01-17 15:10 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 12:01 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 11:59 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-21 22:40 ` Jonas
2014-01-23 21:26 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-23 22:11 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-23 22:30 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-23 23:43 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-27 9:04 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-27 12:44 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-27 20:30 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-28 10:28 ` Jonas Meurer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-01-06 21:01 R3s1stanc3
2014-01-06 21:39 ` Heinz Diehl
2014-01-06 21:44 ` R3s1stanc3
2014-01-06 23:33 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-06 23:38 ` R3s1stanc3
2014-01-07 0:03 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-07 0:01 ` Arno Wagner
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