From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] nuke password to delete luks header
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:43:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140118084353.GA6887@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMw1ynT3hE20-MhraLDJ8D3-RqLeZS0cFRuCb85Gb3nO+KAYSQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 00:18:27 CET, Claudio Moretti wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Thomas Bastiani <thom@codehawks.eu> wrote:
>
> > On 16 January 2014 22:49, Claudio Moretti <flyingstar16@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 2) Your life is in danger and somebody wants something from your
> >> laptop: what do you think will happen then, if you wipe your key?
> >>
> >
> > I believe Iggy made a point earlier:
> > " [...] not everyone values their physical well-being over the compromise
> > of their data."
> >
> > Which is a surprisingly (to me) valid point. There might be cases where
> > someone might actually want to protect something at the cost of their life.
> >
>
> I hadn't thought about that, but now that you mention it I've given it a
> little thought and I agree. Suppose you're a police officer, you're
> carrying an encrypted laptop with thousands of names of people in a witness
> protection program, and you're captured by the mob.
The mob has IT security experts and will not allow this person to
trick them.
> Without diving into further examples concerning the safety of the people
> someone holds most dear, I believe this is the perfect example.
For my option 1. "erase container while still free to act" it is
a valid example. For option 2. "try to trick adversaries while
already in their power", it is just as bad as all the others.
Arno
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-14 2:10 [dm-crypt] nuke password to delete luks header Jim O'Gorman
2014-01-14 2:41 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 2:52 ` Jim O'Gorman
2014-01-14 4:04 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 4:36 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 5:00 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 7:11 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 12:05 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 14:34 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 19:22 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-15 19:36 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-16 11:50 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 4:30 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 5:01 ` Jim O'Gorman
2014-01-14 7:39 ` [dm-crypt] Re2: " Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 22:42 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-15 6:01 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-15 10:00 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-15 10:47 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-15 11:39 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-15 12:40 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-15 12:59 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-15 13:38 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-15 20:27 ` [dm-crypt] " Milan Broz
2014-01-16 9:50 ` Ondrej Kozina
2014-01-16 10:30 ` Thomas Bastiani
2014-01-16 13:09 ` Florian Junghanns
2014-01-16 19:33 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-16 20:09 ` helices
2014-01-16 20:11 ` Iggy
2014-01-16 21:36 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-16 21:55 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 22:49 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-17 8:17 ` Thomas Bastiani
2014-01-17 23:18 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-18 8:43 ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2014-01-18 12:42 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-18 19:18 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 20:18 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-16 20:28 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-16 21:02 ` Brian
2014-01-16 21:24 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 20:59 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-16 21:43 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-17 12:43 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-17 13:12 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-17 14:27 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-17 15:16 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-17 14:32 ` Rick Moritz
2014-01-17 14:32 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-17 14:57 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-17 14:51 ` Heiko Rosemann
2014-01-17 15:10 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 12:01 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 11:59 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-21 22:40 ` Jonas
2014-01-23 21:26 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-23 22:11 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-23 22:30 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-23 23:43 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-27 9:04 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-27 12:44 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-27 20:30 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-28 10:28 ` Jonas Meurer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-01-06 21:01 R3s1stanc3
2014-01-06 21:39 ` Heinz Diehl
2014-01-06 21:44 ` R3s1stanc3
2014-01-06 23:33 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-06 23:38 ` R3s1stanc3
2014-01-07 0:03 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-07 0:01 ` Arno Wagner
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