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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	Sage Weil <sage@inktank.com>, Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
	Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anton Altaparmakov <anton@tuxera.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] unifying write variants for filesystems
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:02:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140202020238.GT10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxtfMZ82CUmxFKb1zqB2Qy9JAztpPYXgimzya653NY3Og@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 04:13:36PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > BTW, Linus, when did you comment on that patchset?  I've found an iteration
> > of that patchset circa last October (v9, apparently the latest posted),
> > but it looks like your comments had either got lost or had been on the
> > earlier iteration of that thing...
> 
> I commented on the pull request in November. Something like this:
> 
>   http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1311.2/02278.html
> 
> and then I have a follow-up in a reply to that that at least outlines
> a few things that could be done to make it less barfy.
> 
> But judging from your email, you actually went through that
> patch-series with a finer comb, I don't think there is anything in
> that commentary of mine that adds anything to yours, apart on a
> comment on the naming that I hated.

Heh...  You've actually been a lot more polite than what I started to
write on that particular topic.  Mine had started with "folks, identifiers
should be possible to read aloud, without the people around getting nervous.
I mean, ai,ai-ai,owwie-...?" and then got so nasty that I decided to leave
the whole thing alone.

But yes, references to the importance of remembering the safeword aside,
the naming is really atrocious.

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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, Sage Weil <sage@inktank.com>,
	Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
	Anton Altaparmakov <anton@tuxera.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] unifying write variants for filesystems
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:02:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140202020238.GT10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxtfMZ82CUmxFKb1zqB2Qy9JAztpPYXgimzya653NY3Og@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 04:13:36PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > BTW, Linus, when did you comment on that patchset?  I've found an iteration
> > of that patchset circa last October (v9, apparently the latest posted),
> > but it looks like your comments had either got lost or had been on the
> > earlier iteration of that thing...
> 
> I commented on the pull request in November. Something like this:
> 
>   http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1311.2/02278.html
> 
> and then I have a follow-up in a reply to that that at least outlines
> a few things that could be done to make it less barfy.
> 
> But judging from your email, you actually went through that
> patch-series with a finer comb, I don't think there is anything in
> that commentary of mine that adds anything to yours, apart on a
> comment on the naming that I hated.

Heh...  You've actually been a lot more polite than what I started to
write on that particular topic.  Mine had started with "folks, identifiers
should be possible to read aloud, without the people around getting nervous.
I mean, ai,ai-ai,owwie-...?" and then got so nasty that I decided to leave
the whole thing alone.

But yes, references to the importance of remembering the safeword aside,
the naming is really atrocious.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-02  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-12 18:14 [PATCH 0/5] splice: locking changes and code refactoring Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15 ` [PATCH 1/5] splice: move balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited into pipe_to_file Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15 ` [PATCH 2/5] splice: nest i_mutex outside pipe_lock Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15 ` [PATCH 3/5] splice: use splice_from_pipe in generic_file_splice_write Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15 ` [PATCH 4/5] xfs: fix splice_write locking Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15 ` [PATCH 5/5] splice: stop exporting splice_from_pipe implementation details Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 18:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-13 14:14 ` [PATCH 0/5] splice: locking changes and code refactoring Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-13 14:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-13 23:56   ` Al Viro
2014-01-13 23:56     ` Al Viro
2014-01-14 13:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-14 13:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-14 17:20       ` Al Viro
2014-01-14 17:20         ` Al Viro
2014-01-15 18:10         ` Al Viro
2014-01-15 18:10           ` Al Viro
2014-01-18  6:40         ` Al Viro
2014-01-18  7:22           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-18  7:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-18  7:46             ` Al Viro
2014-01-18  7:56               ` Al Viro
2014-01-18  7:56                 ` Al Viro
2014-01-18  8:27               ` Al Viro
2014-01-18  8:44                 ` David Miller
2014-01-18  8:44                   ` David Miller
2014-02-07 17:10                   ` Al Viro
2014-02-07 17:10                     ` Al Viro
2014-01-18 19:59               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-18 20:10                 ` Al Viro
2014-01-18 20:27                   ` Al Viro
2014-01-18 20:27                     ` Al Viro
2014-01-18 20:30                     ` Al Viro
2014-01-18 20:30                       ` Al Viro
2014-01-19  5:13                   ` [RFC] unifying write variants for filesystems Al Viro
2014-01-19  5:13                     ` Al Viro
2014-01-20 13:55                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-20 13:55                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-20 20:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-20 20:32                         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-01 22:43                         ` Al Viro
2014-02-01 22:43                           ` Al Viro
2014-02-02  0:13                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-02  2:02                             ` Al Viro [this message]
2014-02-02  2:02                               ` Al Viro
2014-02-02 19:21                           ` Al Viro
2014-02-02 19:21                             ` Al Viro
2014-02-02 19:23                             ` Al Viro
2014-02-02 19:23                               ` Al Viro
2014-02-03 14:41                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-02-03 14:41                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2014-02-03 15:33                               ` Al Viro
2014-02-03 15:33                                 ` Al Viro
2014-02-02 23:16                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2014-02-02 23:16                             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2014-02-03 15:12                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-03 16:24                             ` Al Viro
2014-02-03 16:50                             ` Dave Kleikamp
2014-02-03 16:23                           ` Dave Kleikamp
2014-02-04 12:44                             ` Al Viro
2014-02-04 12:44                               ` Al Viro
2014-02-04 12:52                               ` Kent Overstreet
2014-02-04 12:52                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2014-02-04 15:17                                 ` Al Viro
2014-02-04 15:17                                   ` Al Viro
2014-02-04 17:27                                   ` Zach Brown
2014-02-04 17:35                                     ` Kent Overstreet
2014-02-04 18:08                                       ` Al Viro
2014-02-04 18:08                                         ` Al Viro
2014-02-04 18:00                                     ` Al Viro
2014-02-04 18:00                                       ` Al Viro
2014-02-04 18:33                                       ` Zach Brown
2014-02-04 18:36                                         ` Al Viro
2014-02-04 18:36                                           ` Al Viro
2014-02-05 19:58                                           ` Al Viro
2014-02-05 20:42                                             ` Zach Brown
2014-02-06  9:08                                             ` Kent Overstreet

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