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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Laszlo Papp <lpapp@kde.org>
Cc: Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: (max6650) Rename the device ids to contain the hwmon suffix
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 23:10:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140210231031.GA5857@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOMwXhMTK6h3MQdHHaEV+5=XbQSqXzj0mPt3MzK9X9jhj4jOhQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 06:59:55PM +0000, Laszlo Papp wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:53 PM,  <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> > Quoting Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>:
> >
> >>
> >> That being said, going with MFD in this case seems quite overkill to
> >> me. MFD makes a lot of sense when each function has its own resources.
> >> As this isn't the case here, a single driver registering both an hwmon
> >> interface and a pinctrl interface would seem sufficient to me. But I
> >> think Guenter already discussed this in the past so I'll let him
> >> continue and decide.
> >>
> >
> > That is what I had suggested as well (though we were talking gpio
> > at the time). Laszlo didn't want to do it this way for some reason.
> > Right now I don't really have an idea what to do.
> 
> Right now I do not really have an idea what the concern here is.
> 
> I will quote you:
> 
> "Please explain, for my education, what makes you believe that I would
> object to or reject to anyone submitting such a driver."
> 
> and then the next one in the thread:
> 
> "> > Works for me. Should I apply the gpio and mfd drivers separately or in
> > > one single patch?
> >
> > s/apply/send/
> >
> Separately."
> 
> This happened about two months ago, and after two months of man work,
> several reviews from various people, while you have been *explicitly*
> included in the threads, are claiming that it is unacceptable? Do you
> see how much time waste that would be for everyone who have been
> involved.
> 
> What I currently do not understand is the point for rejecting the
> contribution that does not have API drawback, etc, if you do not
> provide anything better. You are more than welcome to rewrite my work
> once the feature works, but I guess it is very likely that you would
> not do that.
> 
> So, let me ask it: shall we continue the bike-shedding after months,
> or there is a definite decision from the maintainers? Disagreement is
> not a problem because people can move on if the maintainers actually
> make it clear what is acceptable and what not, but here that did not
> really happen. We are where we were months ago.
> 

I think I'll let Jean handle this one.

Guenter

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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Laszlo Papp <lpapp@kde.org>
Cc: Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: (max6650) Rename the device ids to contain the hwmon suffix
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:10:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140210231031.GA5857@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOMwXhMTK6h3MQdHHaEV+5=XbQSqXzj0mPt3MzK9X9jhj4jOhQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 06:59:55PM +0000, Laszlo Papp wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:53 PM,  <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> > Quoting Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>:
> >
> >>
> >> That being said, going with MFD in this case seems quite overkill to
> >> me. MFD makes a lot of sense when each function has its own resources.
> >> As this isn't the case here, a single driver registering both an hwmon
> >> interface and a pinctrl interface would seem sufficient to me. But I
> >> think Guenter already discussed this in the past so I'll let him
> >> continue and decide.
> >>
> >
> > That is what I had suggested as well (though we were talking gpio
> > at the time). Laszlo didn't want to do it this way for some reason.
> > Right now I don't really have an idea what to do.
> 
> Right now I do not really have an idea what the concern here is.
> 
> I will quote you:
> 
> "Please explain, for my education, what makes you believe that I would
> object to or reject to anyone submitting such a driver."
> 
> and then the next one in the thread:
> 
> "> > Works for me. Should I apply the gpio and mfd drivers separately or in
> > > one single patch?
> >
> > s/apply/send/
> >
> Separately."
> 
> This happened about two months ago, and after two months of man work,
> several reviews from various people, while you have been *explicitly*
> included in the threads, are claiming that it is unacceptable? Do you
> see how much time waste that would be for everyone who have been
> involved.
> 
> What I currently do not understand is the point for rejecting the
> contribution that does not have API drawback, etc, if you do not
> provide anything better. You are more than welcome to rewrite my work
> once the feature works, but I guess it is very likely that you would
> not do that.
> 
> So, let me ask it: shall we continue the bike-shedding after months,
> or there is a definite decision from the maintainers? Disagreement is
> not a problem because people can move on if the maintainers actually
> make it clear what is acceptable and what not, but here that did not
> really happen. We are where we were months ago.
> 

I think I'll let Jean handle this one.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-10 15:25 [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: (max6650) Rename the device ids to contain the hwmon suffix Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 15:25 ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 16:08 ` [lm-sensors] " Lee Jones
2014-02-10 16:08   ` Lee Jones
2014-02-10 16:38   ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2014-02-10 16:38     ` Jean Delvare
2014-02-10 16:53     ` linux
2014-02-10 16:53       ` linux
2014-02-10 18:59       ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 18:59         ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 23:10         ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2014-02-10 23:10           ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-11  3:23           ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  3:23             ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  3:35             ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  3:35               ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 16:58     ` Lee Jones
2014-02-10 16:58       ` Lee Jones
2014-02-10 17:43       ` Jean Delvare
2014-02-10 17:43         ` Jean Delvare
2014-02-10 18:01         ` [lm-sensors] " Lee Jones
2014-02-10 18:01           ` Lee Jones
2014-02-10 18:15           ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2014-02-10 18:15             ` Jean Delvare
2014-02-10 18:24             ` Lee Jones
2014-02-10 18:24               ` Lee Jones
2014-02-10 18:27         ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 18:27           ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 18:55           ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2014-02-10 18:55             ` Jean Delvare
2014-02-10 17:06     ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 17:06       ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 17:09       ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-10 17:09         ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  3:13     ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  3:13       ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  7:50       ` Jean Delvare
2014-02-11  7:50         ` Jean Delvare
2014-02-11  8:19         ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  8:19           ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  8:28         ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  8:28           ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  8:49           ` Jean Delvare
2014-02-11  8:49             ` Jean Delvare
2014-02-11  9:08             ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  9:08               ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  9:57               ` Lee Jones
2014-02-11  9:57                 ` Lee Jones
2014-02-11 15:15                 ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11 15:15                   ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  8:50           ` Lee Jones
2014-02-11  8:50             ` Lee Jones
2014-02-11  8:58             ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  8:58               ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  9:14               ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  9:14                 ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  9:47               ` Lee Jones
2014-02-11  9:47                 ` Lee Jones
2014-02-11  9:50                 ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11  9:50                   ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11 10:22             ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11 10:22               ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11 11:09               ` Laszlo Papp
2014-02-11 11:09                 ` Laszlo Papp

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