From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Hansen <rhansen@bbn.com>,
Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com>,
bug-readline@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: msync: require either MS_ASYNC or MS_SYNC [resend]
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:07:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140404140732.GG10526@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <533E5B7A.7030309@gmail.com>
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 09:12:58AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > * Clearer intentions. Looking at the existing code and the code
> > history, the fact that flags=0 behaves like flags=MS_ASYNC appears
> > to be a coincidence, not the result of an intentional choice.
>
> Maybe. You earlier asserted that the semantics when flags==0 may have
> been different, prior to Peter Zijstra's patch,
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=204ec841fbea3e5138168edbc3a76d46747cc987
> .
> It's not clear to me that that is the case. But, it would be wise to
> CC the developer, in case he has an insight.
Right; so before that patch there appears to have been a difference.
The code looked like:
if (flags & MS_ASYNC) {
balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited();
} else if (flags & MS_SYNC) {
do_fsync()
} else {
/* do nothing */
}
Which would give the following semantics:
msync(.flags = 0) -- scan PTEs and update dirty page accounting
msync(.flags = MS_ASYNC) -- scan PTEs and dirty throttle
msync(.flags = MS_SYNC) -- scan PTEs and flush dirty pages
However with the introduction of accurate dirty page accounting in
.19 we always had an accurate dirty page count and both .flags=0 and
.flags=MS_ASYNC turn into the same NO-OP.
Yielding todays state, where 0 and MS_ASYNC don't do anything much and
MS_SYNC issues the fsync() -- although I understand Willy recently
posted a patch to do a data-range-sync instead of the full fsync.
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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Hansen <rhansen@bbn.com>,
Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com>,
bug-readline@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: msync: require either MS_ASYNC or MS_SYNC [resend]
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:07:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140404140732.GG10526@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <533E5B7A.7030309@gmail.com>
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 09:12:58AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > * Clearer intentions. Looking at the existing code and the code
> > history, the fact that flags=0 behaves like flags=MS_ASYNC appears
> > to be a coincidence, not the result of an intentional choice.
>
> Maybe. You earlier asserted that the semantics when flags==0 may have
> been different, prior to Peter Zijstra's patch,
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=204ec841fbea3e5138168edbc3a76d46747cc987
> .
> It's not clear to me that that is the case. But, it would be wise to
> CC the developer, in case he has an insight.
Right; so before that patch there appears to have been a difference.
The code looked like:
if (flags & MS_ASYNC) {
balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited();
} else if (flags & MS_SYNC) {
do_fsync()
} else {
/* do nothing */
}
Which would give the following semantics:
msync(.flags = 0) -- scan PTEs and update dirty page accounting
msync(.flags = MS_ASYNC) -- scan PTEs and dirty throttle
msync(.flags = MS_SYNC) -- scan PTEs and flush dirty pages
However with the introduction of accurate dirty page accounting in
.19 we always had an accurate dirty page count and both .flags=0 and
.flags=MS_ASYNC turn into the same NO-OP.
Yielding todays state, where 0 and MS_ASYNC don't do anything much and
MS_SYNC issues the fsync() -- although I understand Willy recently
posted a patch to do a data-range-sync instead of the full fsync.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-04 14:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-01 18:25 [PATCH] mm: msync: require either MS_ASYNC or MS_SYNC Richard Hansen
2014-04-01 18:25 ` Richard Hansen
[not found] ` <533B04A9.6090405-A08e6c8yq/Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-01 19:32 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-01 19:32 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-01 19:32 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-02 0:53 ` Richard Hansen
2014-04-02 0:53 ` Richard Hansen
[not found] ` <533B1439.3010403-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-02 10:45 ` chrubis-AlSwsSmVLrQ
2014-04-02 10:45 ` chrubis
2014-04-02 10:45 ` chrubis
2014-04-02 11:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-02 11:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-02 11:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20140402111032.GA27551-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-02 11:45 ` Steven Whitehouse
2014-04-02 11:45 ` Steven Whitehouse
2014-04-02 11:45 ` Steven Whitehouse
2014-04-02 23:44 ` Richard Hansen
2014-04-02 23:44 ` Richard Hansen
2014-04-02 23:44 ` Richard Hansen
2014-04-03 8:25 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-03 8:25 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-03 11:51 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-03 11:51 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-04 6:54 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-04 6:54 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-04 6:54 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-03 12:57 ` Greg Troxel
2014-04-03 12:57 ` Greg Troxel
2014-04-04 7:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-04 7:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-04 7:11 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-03 20:23 ` Richard Hansen
2014-04-03 20:23 ` Richard Hansen
2014-04-04 6:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-04 6:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-04-04 7:12 ` [PATCH] mm: msync: require either MS_ASYNC or MS_SYNC [resend] Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-04 7:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-04 7:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-04 14:07 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-04-04 14:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
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