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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelf@ti.com>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Peter Crosthwaite <peter.crosthwaite@xilinx.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: Change of TEXT_OFFSET for multi_v7_defconfig
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:07:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140422100702.GS24070@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53563C03.7090401@linaro.org>

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:53:07AM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
> On 17/04/14 22:35, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 04:18:45PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> >> The problem here is more than just the TEXT_OFFSET changed. From what
> >> I've heard, there are some QC chips which need much more reserved RAM
> >> than the 2MB discussed here. Changing the TEXT_OFFSET is a hack that
> >> doesn't scale.
> > 
> > You may think it's a hack, but we really can't get around this.  There
> > really are platforms out there where we must do this kind of stuff.  I
> > invite you next time you meet up to talk to Michal Simek.  There's no
> > way they can load the kernel at 32K into RAM.
> 
> After reading this thread I have noticed that the sort order for the
> textofs part of this makefile is numeric (based on textofs) rather than
> alphabetic.

Correct.

> Is this an intentional mechanism? Certainly the result of numeric
> sorting is that the kernel will rise to the highest point in memory that
> suits all enabled platforms (based on the assumption that platforms are
> much more likely to reserve memory right at the start of RAM than
> slightly offset into it).

Also correct.

> If so would you welcome a comment only patch explaining this?

If you're willing to provide one.

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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Change of TEXT_OFFSET for multi_v7_defconfig
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:07:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140422100702.GS24070@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53563C03.7090401@linaro.org>

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:53:07AM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
> On 17/04/14 22:35, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 04:18:45PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> >> The problem here is more than just the TEXT_OFFSET changed. From what
> >> I've heard, there are some QC chips which need much more reserved RAM
> >> than the 2MB discussed here. Changing the TEXT_OFFSET is a hack that
> >> doesn't scale.
> > 
> > You may think it's a hack, but we really can't get around this.  There
> > really are platforms out there where we must do this kind of stuff.  I
> > invite you next time you meet up to talk to Michal Simek.  There's no
> > way they can load the kernel at 32K into RAM.
> 
> After reading this thread I have noticed that the sort order for the
> textofs part of this makefile is numeric (based on textofs) rather than
> alphabetic.

Correct.

> Is this an intentional mechanism? Certainly the result of numeric
> sorting is that the kernel will rise to the highest point in memory that
> suits all enabled platforms (based on the assumption that platforms are
> much more likely to reserve memory right at the start of RAM than
> slightly offset into it).

Also correct.

> If so would you welcome a comment only patch explaining this?

If you're willing to provide one.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-22 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-15 10:44 Change of TEXT_OFFSET for multi_v7_defconfig Daniel Thompson
2014-04-15 10:44 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-15 17:53 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-04-15 17:53   ` Stephen Boyd
2014-04-16 16:18 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 16:18   ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 19:14   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-16 19:14     ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-16 21:08     ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 21:08       ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 21:36       ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-16 21:36         ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-16 22:34         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 22:34           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 22:33       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 22:33         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 23:21       ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-16 23:21         ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 18:33         ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 18:33           ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 19:48           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 19:48             ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 20:49             ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 20:49               ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 20:54               ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-17 20:54                 ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-17 20:35           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-17 20:35             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22  9:44             ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22  9:44               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 17:05               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:05                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:55                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-22 17:55                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-22 18:36                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:36                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 14:50             ` Michal Simek
2014-04-22 14:50               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michal Simek
2014-04-22 17:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:00                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:11               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 17:11                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 17:53                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:53                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 18:12                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:12                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:32                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 18:32                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 18:38                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:38                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:45                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 18:45                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-17 17:11     ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 17:11       ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 20:06       ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 20:06         ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 20:16         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-17 20:16           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-17 21:18           ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 21:18             ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 21:35             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-17 21:35               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-18  2:53               ` Rob Herring
2014-04-18  2:53                 ` Rob Herring
2014-04-18  4:34                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-18  4:34                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-22 10:26                   ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 10:26                     ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 10:40                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 10:40                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 11:41                       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 11:41                         ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-18  8:41                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-18  8:41                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22  9:53               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22  9:53                 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 10:07                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2014-04-22 10:07                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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