From: Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Joel Fernandes <joelf@ti.com>,
linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
Peter Crosthwaite <peter.crosthwaite@xilinx.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: Change of TEXT_OFFSET for multi_v7_defconfig
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:26:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <535643ED.8030406@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1404180019410.980@knanqh.ubzr>
On 18/04/14 05:34, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>> I'm not suggesting to break anything or changing existing platforms,
>> > but how do we improve the Image format in a compatible way. If
>> > bootloaders want to support booting Image files or vmlinux directly,
>> > then we should support that including any compatible changes to make
>> > things work better.
> And why would bootloaders want that? Just to create confusion with
> the established boot protocol?
I'd say that they don't. My original concern was how the different
architectures negotiate if more than one arch wants a special text
offset, not how to write a correct bootloader.
The existing uImage files already provide sufficient information to load
the kernel regardless of the TEXT_OFFSET chosen by negotiation among the
enabled architectures.
The entry point is PAGE_OFFSET + TEXT_OFFSET and, although only
implicitly defined, the entry point cannot be set to any other value
without making a backward incompatible to arm/Booting:
"The boot loader is expected to call the kernel image by jumping
directly to the first instruction of the kernel image."
Therefore providing PAGE_OFFSET remains 1G aligned and the hardware
meets the not-unreasonably-stupid test (i.e. TEXT_OFFSET < 1G) then
deriving the right value for TEXT_OFFSET is a trivial mask operation on
the entry point.
Daniel.
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From: daniel.thompson@linaro.org (Daniel Thompson)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Change of TEXT_OFFSET for multi_v7_defconfig
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:26:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <535643ED.8030406@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1404180019410.980@knanqh.ubzr>
On 18/04/14 05:34, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>> I'm not suggesting to break anything or changing existing platforms,
>> > but how do we improve the Image format in a compatible way. If
>> > bootloaders want to support booting Image files or vmlinux directly,
>> > then we should support that including any compatible changes to make
>> > things work better.
> And why would bootloaders want that? Just to create confusion with
> the established boot protocol?
I'd say that they don't. My original concern was how the different
architectures negotiate if more than one arch wants a special text
offset, not how to write a correct bootloader.
The existing uImage files already provide sufficient information to load
the kernel regardless of the TEXT_OFFSET chosen by negotiation among the
enabled architectures.
The entry point is PAGE_OFFSET + TEXT_OFFSET and, although only
implicitly defined, the entry point cannot be set to any other value
without making a backward incompatible to arm/Booting:
"The boot loader is expected to call the kernel image by jumping
directly to the first instruction of the kernel image."
Therefore providing PAGE_OFFSET remains 1G aligned and the hardware
meets the not-unreasonably-stupid test (i.e. TEXT_OFFSET < 1G) then
deriving the right value for TEXT_OFFSET is a trivial mask operation on
the entry point.
Daniel.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-22 10:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-15 10:44 Change of TEXT_OFFSET for multi_v7_defconfig Daniel Thompson
2014-04-15 10:44 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-15 17:53 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-04-15 17:53 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-04-16 16:18 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 16:18 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 19:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-16 19:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-16 21:08 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 21:08 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-16 21:36 ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-16 21:36 ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-16 22:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 22:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 22:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 22:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-16 23:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-16 23:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 18:33 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 18:33 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 19:48 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 19:48 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 20:49 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 20:49 ` Christopher Covington
2014-04-17 20:54 ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-17 20:54 ` Peter Maydell
2014-04-17 20:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-17 20:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 9:44 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 9:44 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 17:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-22 17:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-22 18:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 14:50 ` Michal Simek
2014-04-22 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michal Simek
2014-04-22 17:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 17:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 17:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 17:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 18:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 18:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 18:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 18:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 18:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-17 17:11 ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 17:11 ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 20:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 20:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-17 20:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-17 20:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-17 21:18 ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 21:18 ` Rob Herring
2014-04-17 21:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-17 21:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-18 2:53 ` Rob Herring
2014-04-18 2:53 ` Rob Herring
2014-04-18 4:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-18 4:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-04-22 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson [this message]
2014-04-22 10:26 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 10:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 10:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 11:41 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 11:41 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-18 8:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-18 8:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 9:53 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 9:53 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-04-22 10:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-22 10:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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