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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	andrew@lunn.ch, Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
	Andrew Bresticker <abrestic@chromium.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org" <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matt Porter <matt.porter@linaro.org>,
	jdelvare@suse.de,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>,
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	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@sonymobile.com>,
	u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de, kevin.strasser@linux.intel.com,
	Dylan Reid <dgreid@chromium.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kerne>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] Add cros_ec changes for newer boards
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:21:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140429082146.GE29462@lee--X1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=UEwfNX+uf70OV4LB39s=mJyxTkC63g4iYrE7hcvyEdgw@mail.gmail.com>

> >> >>> Need to wait for the ARM, DT and I2C guys to review, at which point
> >> >>> I'll be happy to take in and supply a branch for them to pull from if
> >> >>> required. If there are no _true_ dependencies and the MFD changes can
> >> >>> be added independently without fear of build breakages, let me know
> >> >>> and I'll apply them separately.
> >> >>
> >> >> I believe there aren't direct dependencies between the patches. So, the
> >> >> MFD patches can be applied to the MFD tree and the DT patch applied to
> >> >> the Tegra tree. I'm simply waiting for the MFD patches to be applied
> >> >> before applying the DT patch so that I know the DT binding definition is
> >> >> fully accepted before applying a patch that uses it.
> >> >
> >> > All of the MFD patches are safe to apply and in pretty much arbitrary
> >> > order.  The strong dependencies in the chain are:
> >> >
> >> > * We need patch #5 (mfd: cros_ec: Sync to the latest
> >> > cros_ec_commands.h from EC sources) before the i2c tunnel can compile.
> >> >
> >> > * As Stephen says, he shouldn't apply the device tree until we're
> >> > confident that the bindings are right.  However there's no strong
> >> > dependency otherwise.
> >> >
> >> > * Patches #1 #2 and #3 are simply reliability fixes.  Those could land
> >> > at any point in time and will improve other users of cros_ec_spi (like
> >> > the keyboard on tegra124-venice2).
> >> >
> >> > * Patch #4 can apply any time with no issues.  Without it large i2c
> >> > tunnel transfers won't work, but that's not a terrible problem (all
> >> > normal transfers are small).
> >>
> >> Patch #5 (latest ec commands) can also apply at any time with no
> >> issues, but it's needed for patch #6 (the tunnel) to compile.
> >>
> >> All that being said, I'd request that you merge patches #1-#5 as soon
> >> as you can and make sure you can provide a way that Wolfram can pull
> >> them (or at least patch #5) into his i2c tree to keep them applying
> >> when he is ready to land #6.
> >
> > Very well. So if I can obtain Wolfram's Ack, I can apply the MFD
> > changes along with patch #6 and supply him with a branch.
> 
> Can you explain the reason to wait for Wolfram's Ack before applying
> #1 - #5?  I would think:
> 
> 1. Create a topic branch.
> 2. Apply patches 1-5 to the topic branch
> 3. Merge the topic branch to your for-next branch
> 
> When Wolfram wants to take patch #6, he can either:
> A. Pull your topic branch
> B. If it's been long enough, patches will already be in ToT and no extra work.
> 
> If I understand correctly, using a topic branch and doing merges /
> pulls means that you can provide Wolfram with stable git hashes when
> he needs them and there will be no merge conflicts.

I don't use TBs for MFD yet, as I've never seen the need.  The current
WoW is to only create extra branches when I have patch{es, sets} to
share.  If I start using a more TB focused methodology it will be
insinuated that the branches are stable - I like the fact that this is
_not_ the case.  Currently I am able to rebase, rework and reorder the
repo as and when I see fit, and do regularly. Except the IBs of course.

> Patches #1 - #5 are bonafide bugfixes irrespective of the i2c tunnel.

I only want to create an IB if I know it's going to be used, else I'd
prefer the patches remain transient.  Why are you so keen to rush into
having these patches applied?  They _will_ make it into v3.15, whether
they are applied immediately or after a length of time (in the case
that Wolfram does not respond).

-- 
Lee Jones
Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog

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From: lee.jones@linaro.org (Lee Jones)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 0/7] Add cros_ec changes for newer boards
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:21:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140429082146.GE29462@lee--X1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=UEwfNX+uf70OV4LB39s=mJyxTkC63g4iYrE7hcvyEdgw@mail.gmail.com>

> >> >>> Need to wait for the ARM, DT and I2C guys to review, at which point
> >> >>> I'll be happy to take in and supply a branch for them to pull from if
> >> >>> required. If there are no _true_ dependencies and the MFD changes can
> >> >>> be added independently without fear of build breakages, let me know
> >> >>> and I'll apply them separately.
> >> >>
> >> >> I believe there aren't direct dependencies between the patches. So, the
> >> >> MFD patches can be applied to the MFD tree and the DT patch applied to
> >> >> the Tegra tree. I'm simply waiting for the MFD patches to be applied
> >> >> before applying the DT patch so that I know the DT binding definition is
> >> >> fully accepted before applying a patch that uses it.
> >> >
> >> > All of the MFD patches are safe to apply and in pretty much arbitrary
> >> > order.  The strong dependencies in the chain are:
> >> >
> >> > * We need patch #5 (mfd: cros_ec: Sync to the latest
> >> > cros_ec_commands.h from EC sources) before the i2c tunnel can compile.
> >> >
> >> > * As Stephen says, he shouldn't apply the device tree until we're
> >> > confident that the bindings are right.  However there's no strong
> >> > dependency otherwise.
> >> >
> >> > * Patches #1 #2 and #3 are simply reliability fixes.  Those could land
> >> > at any point in time and will improve other users of cros_ec_spi (like
> >> > the keyboard on tegra124-venice2).
> >> >
> >> > * Patch #4 can apply any time with no issues.  Without it large i2c
> >> > tunnel transfers won't work, but that's not a terrible problem (all
> >> > normal transfers are small).
> >>
> >> Patch #5 (latest ec commands) can also apply at any time with no
> >> issues, but it's needed for patch #6 (the tunnel) to compile.
> >>
> >> All that being said, I'd request that you merge patches #1-#5 as soon
> >> as you can and make sure you can provide a way that Wolfram can pull
> >> them (or at least patch #5) into his i2c tree to keep them applying
> >> when he is ready to land #6.
> >
> > Very well. So if I can obtain Wolfram's Ack, I can apply the MFD
> > changes along with patch #6 and supply him with a branch.
> 
> Can you explain the reason to wait for Wolfram's Ack before applying
> #1 - #5?  I would think:
> 
> 1. Create a topic branch.
> 2. Apply patches 1-5 to the topic branch
> 3. Merge the topic branch to your for-next branch
> 
> When Wolfram wants to take patch #6, he can either:
> A. Pull your topic branch
> B. If it's been long enough, patches will already be in ToT and no extra work.
> 
> If I understand correctly, using a topic branch and doing merges /
> pulls means that you can provide Wolfram with stable git hashes when
> he needs them and there will be no merge conflicts.

I don't use TBs for MFD yet, as I've never seen the need.  The current
WoW is to only create extra branches when I have patch{es, sets} to
share.  If I start using a more TB focused methodology it will be
insinuated that the branches are stable - I like the fact that this is
_not_ the case.  Currently I am able to rebase, rework and reorder the
repo as and when I see fit, and do regularly. Except the IBs of course.

> Patches #1 - #5 are bonafide bugfixes irrespective of the i2c tunnel.

I only want to create an IB if I know it's going to be used, else I'd
prefer the patches remain transient.  Why are you so keen to rush into
having these patches applied?  They _will_ make it into v3.15, whether
they are applied immediately or after a length of time (in the case
that Wolfram does not respond).

-- 
Lee Jones
Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org ? Open source software for ARM SoCs
Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-29  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-22 16:45 [PATCH v2 0/7] Add cros_ec changes for newer boards Doug Anderson
2014-04-22 16:45 ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-22 16:45 ` Doug Anderson
     [not found] ` <1398185154-19404-1-git-send-email-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-22 16:45   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] mfd: cros_ec: spi: calculate delay between transfers correctly Doug Anderson
2014-04-22 16:45     ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-23 12:33     ` Lee Jones
2014-04-22 16:45   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] mfd: cros_ec: spi: Increase cros_ec_spi deadline from 5ms to 100ms Doug Anderson
2014-04-22 16:45     ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-23 12:36     ` Lee Jones
2014-04-22 16:45   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] i2c: ChromeOS EC tunnel driver Doug Anderson
2014-04-22 16:45     ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-23 12:37     ` Lee Jones
2014-04-23 16:37     ` Doug Anderson
     [not found]     ` <1398185154-19404-7-git-send-email-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 12:33       ` Wolfram Sang
2014-04-29 12:33         ` Wolfram Sang
2014-04-30 17:44         ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-22 16:45 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] mfd: cros_ec: spi: Add mutex to cros_ec_spi Doug Anderson
2014-04-23 12:34   ` Lee Jones
2014-04-22 16:45 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] mfd: cros_ec: spi: Make the cros_ec_spi timeout more reliable Doug Anderson
     [not found]   ` <1398185154-19404-4-git-send-email-dianders-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-23 12:35     ` Lee Jones
2014-04-23 12:35       ` Lee Jones
2014-04-22 16:45 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] mfd: cros_ec: Sync to the latest cros_ec_commands.h from EC sources Doug Anderson
2014-04-23 12:36   ` Lee Jones
2014-04-22 16:45 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] ARM: tegra: Add the EC i2c tunnel to tegra124-venice2 Doug Anderson
2014-04-22 16:45   ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-22 16:45   ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-23 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Add cros_ec changes for newer boards Lee Jones
2014-04-23 12:32   ` Lee Jones
2014-04-23 12:32   ` Lee Jones
2014-04-23 16:20   ` Stephen Warren
2014-04-23 16:20     ` Stephen Warren
2014-04-23 16:20     ` Stephen Warren
2014-04-23 16:32     ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-23 16:32       ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-23 16:35       ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-23 16:35         ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-28  9:19         ` Lee Jones
2014-04-28  9:19           ` Lee Jones
2014-04-28 21:18           ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-28 21:18             ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-29  8:21             ` Lee Jones [this message]
2014-04-29  8:21               ` Lee Jones
2014-04-29 16:51               ` Doug Anderson
2014-04-29 16:51                 ` Doug Anderson

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