From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Sanjay Rao <srao@redhat.com>, Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] time,signal: protect resource use statistics with seqlock
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 02:43:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140814004318.GA2582@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140813170324.544aaf2d@cuia.bos.redhat.com>
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 05:03:24PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> --- a/kernel/time/posix-cpu-timers.c
> +++ b/kernel/time/posix-cpu-timers.c
> @@ -272,22 +272,8 @@ static int posix_cpu_clock_get_task(struct task_struct *tsk,
> if (same_thread_group(tsk, current))
> err = cpu_clock_sample(which_clock, tsk, &rtn);
> } else {
> - unsigned long flags;
> - struct sighand_struct *sighand;
> -
> - /*
> - * while_each_thread() is not yet entirely RCU safe,
> - * keep locking the group while sampling process
> - * clock for now.
> - */
> - sighand = lock_task_sighand(tsk, &flags);
> - if (!sighand)
> - return err;
> -
> if (tsk == current || thread_group_leader(tsk))
> err = cpu_clock_sample_group(which_clock, tsk, &rtn);
> -
> - unlock_task_sighand(tsk, &flags);
> }
I'm worried about such lockless solution based on RCU or read seqcount because
we lose the guarantee that an update is immediately visible by all subsequent
readers.
Say CPU 0 updates the thread time and both CPU 1 and CPU 2 right after that
call clock_gettime(), with the spinlock we were guaranteed to see the new
update. Now with a pure seqlock read approach, we guarantee a
read sequence coherency but we don't guarantee the freshest update result.
So that looks like a source of non monotonic results.
>
> if (!err)
> --
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-14 0:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-12 18:25 [PATCH RFC] time: drop do_sys_times spinlock Rik van Riel
2014-08-12 19:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-12 19:22 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-12 22:27 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 17:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 17:35 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 18:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 18:25 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 18:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 18:57 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 21:03 ` [PATCH RFC] time,signal: protect resource use statistics with seqlock Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 0:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2014-08-14 1:57 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 13:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14 14:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 2:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-15 14:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 22:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14 13:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 13:38 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14 13:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 17:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 18:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 5:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-15 6:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-15 9:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-15 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-15 16:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 16:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 17:25 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-15 18:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 14:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 15:37 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 16:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 17:36 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 18:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 19:03 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 19:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 2:14 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-15 14:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 21:03 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 17:40 ` [PATCH RFC] time: drop do_sys_times spinlock Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 17:50 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 17:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 6:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-13 11:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 13:24 ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 14:09 ` Mike Galbraith
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