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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 7/7] arm: dma-mapping: plumb our iommu mapping ops into arch_setup_dma_ops
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:14:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140923071355.GI30514@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140922174337.GI7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>


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On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 06:43:37PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Thierry,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:19:35AM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 05:34:55PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > [...]
> > > +static bool arm_setup_iommu_dma_ops(struct device *dev, u64 dma_base, u64 size)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct dma_iommu_mapping *mapping;
> > > +
> > > +	mapping = arm_iommu_create_mapping(dev->bus, dma_base, size);
> > 
> > If I understand correctly this will be called for each device that has
> > an IOMMU master interface and will end up creating a new mapping for
> > each of the devices. Each of these mappings will translate to a domain
> > in the IOMMU API, which in turn is a separate address space.
> 
> Correct, although that's largely because I've bolted on the existing ARM
> IOMMU code.
> 
> > How do you envision to support use-cases where a set of devices need to
> > share a single domain? This is needed for example in DRM where SoCs
> > often have a set of hardware blocks (each with its own master interface)
> > that compose the display device. On Tegra for example there are two
> > display controllers that need access to the same IOVA domain so that
> > they can scan out framebuffers.
> 
> Yup. In this case, the iommu_dma_mapping passed to arch_setup_dma_ops
> contains a domain and an allocator for each IOMMU instance in the system.
> It would then be up to the architecture how it makes use of those, but
> the most obvious thing to do would be to attach devices mastering through
> an IOMMU instance to that per-instance domain.
> 
> The other use-case is isolation (one domain per device), which I guess
> matches what the ARM code is doing at the moment.

I think there are two cases here. You can have a composite device that
wants to manage a single domain (using its own allocator) for a set of
hardware devices. At the same time a set of devices (think 2D and 3D
engines) could want to use a multiple domains for process separation.
In that case I'd expect a logical DRM device to allocate one domain per
process and then associate the 2D and 3D engines with that same domain
on process switch.

What I proposed a while back was to leave it up to the IOMMU driver to
choose an allocator for the device. Or rather, choose whether to use a
custom allocator or the DMA/IOMMU integration allocator. The way this
worked was to keep a list of devices in the IOMMU driver. Devices in
this list would be added to domain reserved for DMA/IOMMU integration.
Those would typically be devices such as SD/MMC, audio, ... devices that
are in-kernel and need no per-process separation. By default devices
wouldn't be added to a domain, so devices forming a composite DRM device
would be able to manage their own domain.

Thierry

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From: thierry.reding@gmail.com (Thierry Reding)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH v3 7/7] arm: dma-mapping: plumb our iommu mapping ops into arch_setup_dma_ops
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:14:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140923071355.GI30514@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140922174337.GI7936@arm.com>

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 06:43:37PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Thierry,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:19:35AM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 05:34:55PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > [...]
> > > +static bool arm_setup_iommu_dma_ops(struct device *dev, u64 dma_base, u64 size)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct dma_iommu_mapping *mapping;
> > > +
> > > +	mapping = arm_iommu_create_mapping(dev->bus, dma_base, size);
> > 
> > If I understand correctly this will be called for each device that has
> > an IOMMU master interface and will end up creating a new mapping for
> > each of the devices. Each of these mappings will translate to a domain
> > in the IOMMU API, which in turn is a separate address space.
> 
> Correct, although that's largely because I've bolted on the existing ARM
> IOMMU code.
> 
> > How do you envision to support use-cases where a set of devices need to
> > share a single domain? This is needed for example in DRM where SoCs
> > often have a set of hardware blocks (each with its own master interface)
> > that compose the display device. On Tegra for example there are two
> > display controllers that need access to the same IOVA domain so that
> > they can scan out framebuffers.
> 
> Yup. In this case, the iommu_dma_mapping passed to arch_setup_dma_ops
> contains a domain and an allocator for each IOMMU instance in the system.
> It would then be up to the architecture how it makes use of those, but
> the most obvious thing to do would be to attach devices mastering through
> an IOMMU instance to that per-instance domain.
> 
> The other use-case is isolation (one domain per device), which I guess
> matches what the ARM code is doing at the moment.

I think there are two cases here. You can have a composite device that
wants to manage a single domain (using its own allocator) for a set of
hardware devices. At the same time a set of devices (think 2D and 3D
engines) could want to use a multiple domains for process separation.
In that case I'd expect a logical DRM device to allocate one domain per
process and then associate the 2D and 3D engines with that same domain
on process switch.

What I proposed a while back was to leave it up to the IOMMU driver to
choose an allocator for the device. Or rather, choose whether to use a
custom allocator or the DMA/IOMMU integration allocator. The way this
worked was to keep a list of devices in the IOMMU driver. Devices in
this list would be added to domain reserved for DMA/IOMMU integration.
Those would typically be devices such as SD/MMC, audio, ... devices that
are in-kernel and need no per-process separation. By default devices
wouldn't be added to a domain, so devices forming a composite DRM device
would be able to manage their own domain.

Thierry
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Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-12 16:34 [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` Will Deacon
     [not found] ` <1410539695-29128-1-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/7] iommu: provide early initialisation hook for IOMMU drivers Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-18 14:31     ` Robin Murphy
2014-09-18 14:31       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]       ` <541AECDA.1000805-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22 17:35         ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:35           ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/7] dma-mapping: replace set_arch_dma_coherent_ops with arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/7] iommu: add new iommu_ops callback for adding an OF device Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-4-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-15 11:57       ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-15 11:57         ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]         ` <5416D432.8020107-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17  1:39           ` Will Deacon
2014-09-17  1:39             ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] iommu: provide helper function to configure an IOMMU for an of master Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-5-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 11:13       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-18 11:13         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 17:13         ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:13           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20140922171352.GF7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-14 13:12             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 13:12               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-6-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 11:17       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-18 11:17         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22  9:29         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22  9:29           ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 17:50           ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:50             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20140922175027.GK7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-14 12:53               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 12:53                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-27 10:51                 ` Will Deacon
2014-10-27 10:51                   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                   ` <20141027105158.GE8768-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 11:12                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-10-27 11:12                       ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-10-27 11:30                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-27 11:30                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-27 16:02                       ` Will Deacon
2014-10-27 16:02                         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                         ` <20141027160216.GY8768-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 16:33                           ` jroedel-l3A5Bk7waGM
2014-10-27 16:33                             ` jroedel at suse.de
2014-09-22 17:46         ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:46           ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/7] arm: call iommu_init before of_platform_populate Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-7-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22  9:36       ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22  9:36         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 11:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-22 11:08           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-22 11:40           ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 11:40             ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 16:03             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-22 16:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23  7:02               ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23  7:02                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23  7:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23  7:44                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23  8:59                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23  8:59                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 13:07                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 13:07                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 13:20                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-14 13:20                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-14 13:37                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 13:37                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 15:01                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 15:01                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 15:05                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 15:05                             ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 15:10                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 15:10                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/7] arm: dma-mapping: plumb our iommu mapping ops into arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-8-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22  9:19       ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22  9:19         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22  9:22         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22  9:22           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 17:43         ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:43           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20140922174337.GI7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-23  7:14             ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2014-09-23  7:14               ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-24 16:33               ` Will Deacon
2014-09-24 16:33                 ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                 ` <20140924163338.GF16244-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25  6:40                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-25  6:40                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 16:00                     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-30 16:00                       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                       ` <20140930160035.GM2548-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-01  8:46                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-01  8:46                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-03 15:08                           ` Will Deacon
2014-10-03 15:08                             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                             ` <20141003150850.GA32451-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-06  9:52                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-06  9:52                                 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-06 10:50                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-06 10:50                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-06 13:05                                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-06 13:05                                     ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-16 11:40 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Robin Murphy
2014-09-16 11:40   ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <541821AB.8040403-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17  1:19     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-17  1:19       ` Will Deacon

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