From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:02:16 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141027160216.GY8768@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14012645.olm9XxYoII@avalon>
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:30:33AM +0000, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Will,
Hey Laurent,
> On Monday 27 October 2014 10:51:59 Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 01:53:59PM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Monday 22 September 2014 18:50:27 Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:29:10AM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > > Agreed. I wonder how useful it is to know the set of IOMMU instances
> > > > > that each device can master through. Wouldn't it be more useful to
> > > > > keep a list of master interfaces for each device? The set of IOMMU
> > > > > instances can trivially be derived from that.
> > > >
> > > > I'm struggling to think how that would look. What do you mean by `master
> > > > interfaces' in terms of the code we have in Linux? At the end of the
> > > > day, the list of IOMMU instances (i.e. iommu_dma_mapping) exists because
> > > > you and Laurent have use-cases involving devices mastering through
> > > > multiple IOMMUs. If it doesn't work for you, it might be best for you to
> > > > send me the patch ;)
> > >
> > > Just for the record, I've brought up the topic of masters being served by
> > > multiple IOMMUs, but don't have a use case for it (yet at least). I do
> > > have masters served through multiple streams with separate stream IDs, but
> > > all by the same IOMMU.
> >
> > Ok. I spoke to Arnd, David and Joerg at LPC and the consensus was that the
> > DMA-mapping API should *not* be exposed to the details of masters that
> > master through multiple IOMMUs. Instead, that should be abstracted by the
> > device API by exposing that device as a single struct device.
>
> I'm not sure to follow you here. Aren't we already exposing masters that
> master through multiple IOMMUs as single instances of struct device ?
Hmm, yes, now you've confused me too! The conclusion was certainly that
dma-mapping should not be the one dealing with the I/O topology. Domain
allocation would then be an iommu callback (something like
->get_default_domain), but the rest of the details weren't fleshed out.
Joerg?
> > So, that's certainly an area that needs more work and I'll drop the limited
> > support I'd cooked up from this patch set in the next version.
>
> How about masters connected to multiple stream IDs of the same IOMMU ?
That should still be handled, as I believe that will be a common case.
Will
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:02:16 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141027160216.GY8768@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14012645.olm9XxYoII@avalon>
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:30:33AM +0000, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Will,
Hey Laurent,
> On Monday 27 October 2014 10:51:59 Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 01:53:59PM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Monday 22 September 2014 18:50:27 Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:29:10AM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > > Agreed. I wonder how useful it is to know the set of IOMMU instances
> > > > > that each device can master through. Wouldn't it be more useful to
> > > > > keep a list of master interfaces for each device? The set of IOMMU
> > > > > instances can trivially be derived from that.
> > > >
> > > > I'm struggling to think how that would look. What do you mean by `master
> > > > interfaces' in terms of the code we have in Linux? At the end of the
> > > > day, the list of IOMMU instances (i.e. iommu_dma_mapping) exists because
> > > > you and Laurent have use-cases involving devices mastering through
> > > > multiple IOMMUs. If it doesn't work for you, it might be best for you to
> > > > send me the patch ;)
> > >
> > > Just for the record, I've brought up the topic of masters being served by
> > > multiple IOMMUs, but don't have a use case for it (yet at least). I do
> > > have masters served through multiple streams with separate stream IDs, but
> > > all by the same IOMMU.
> >
> > Ok. I spoke to Arnd, David and Joerg at LPC and the consensus was that the
> > DMA-mapping API should *not* be exposed to the details of masters that
> > master through multiple IOMMUs. Instead, that should be abstracted by the
> > device API by exposing that device as a single struct device.
>
> I'm not sure to follow you here. Aren't we already exposing masters that
> master through multiple IOMMUs as single instances of struct device ?
Hmm, yes, now you've confused me too! The conclusion was certainly that
dma-mapping should not be the one dealing with the I/O topology. Domain
allocation would then be an iommu callback (something like
->get_default_domain), but the rest of the details weren't fleshed out.
Joerg?
> > So, that's certainly an area that needs more work and I'll drop the limited
> > support I'd cooked up from this patch set in the next version.
>
> How about masters connected to multiple stream IDs of the same IOMMU ?
That should still be handled, as I believe that will be a common case.
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-27 16:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-12 16:34 [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1410539695-29128-1-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/7] iommu: provide early initialisation hook for IOMMU drivers Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-18 14:31 ` Robin Murphy
2014-09-18 14:31 ` Robin Murphy
[not found] ` <541AECDA.1000805-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22 17:35 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:35 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/7] dma-mapping: replace set_arch_dma_coherent_ops with arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/7] iommu: add new iommu_ops callback for adding an OF device Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1410539695-29128-4-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-15 11:57 ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-15 11:57 ` Marek Szyprowski
[not found] ` <5416D432.8020107-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17 1:39 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-17 1:39 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] iommu: provide helper function to configure an IOMMU for an of master Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1410539695-29128-5-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 11:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-18 11:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 17:13 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:13 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140922171352.GF7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-14 13:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 13:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-12 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1410539695-29128-6-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 11:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-18 11:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 9:29 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 9:29 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 17:50 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:50 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140922175027.GK7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-14 12:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 12:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-27 10:51 ` Will Deacon
2014-10-27 10:51 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20141027105158.GE8768-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 11:12 ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-10-27 11:12 ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-10-27 11:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-27 11:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-27 16:02 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2014-10-27 16:02 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20141027160216.GY8768-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 16:33 ` jroedel-l3A5Bk7waGM
2014-10-27 16:33 ` jroedel at suse.de
2014-09-22 17:46 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:46 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/7] arm: call iommu_init before of_platform_populate Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1410539695-29128-7-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22 9:36 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 9:36 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 11:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-22 11:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-22 11:40 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 11:40 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 16:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-22 16:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 7:02 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 7:02 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 7:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 7:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 8:59 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 8:59 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 13:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 13:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 13:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-14 13:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-14 13:37 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 13:37 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 15:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 15:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 15:05 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 15:05 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 15:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 15:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-12 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/7] arm: dma-mapping: plumb our iommu mapping ops into arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1410539695-29128-8-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22 9:19 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 9:19 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 9:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 9:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 17:43 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-22 17:43 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140922174337.GI7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-23 7:14 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 7:14 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-24 16:33 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-24 16:33 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140924163338.GF16244-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25 6:40 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-25 6:40 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 16:00 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-30 16:00 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140930160035.GM2548-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-01 8:46 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-01 8:46 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-03 15:08 ` Will Deacon
2014-10-03 15:08 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20141003150850.GA32451-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-06 9:52 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-06 9:52 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-06 10:50 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-06 10:50 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-06 13:05 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-06 13:05 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-16 11:40 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Robin Murphy
2014-09-16 11:40 ` Robin Murphy
[not found] ` <541821AB.8040403-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17 1:19 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-17 1:19 ` Will Deacon
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