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From: Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
To: Nishanth Menon <nm-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Grazvydas Ignotas"
	<notasas-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	"dt list" <devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Pawel Moll" <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	"Ian Campbell"
	<ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Kumar Gala" <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	lm-sensors-GZX6beZjE8VD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Jean Delvare" <jdelvare-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	"Benoît Cousson"
	<bcousson-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Pali Rohar" <pali.rohar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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	<linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Guenter Roeck" <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: Driver for OMAP3 temperature sensor
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 19:00:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141230180002.GC23142@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54A1BB2B.9060204-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>

On Mon 2014-12-29 14:35:55, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> On 12/29/2014 12:15 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2014-12-29 12:01:03, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> >> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Sebastian Reichel <sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>>> OMAP34xx and OMAP36xx processors contain a register in the syscon area,
> >>>> which can be used to determine the SoCs temperature. This patch provides
> >>>> a DT based driver for the temperature sensor based on an older driver
> >>>> written by Peter De Schrijver for the Nokia N900 and N9.
> >>>
> >>> The sensor looks like an earlier iteration of sensors used in newer
> >>> OMAPs, which are already supported by maybe
> >>> drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ , maybe it would make sense to update
> >>> that driver instead?
> >>
> >> Just to be clear - OMAP4 is the first time that the sensors were
> >> reliable enough to be used.
> > 
> > When testing initial version of the patch, they seem to work very well
> > in the omap3 case.
> 
> Just be careful when you try to make thermal policy like decisions
> based on this sensor. Placement of the sensor w.r.t the actual logic

I guess we won't do that, certainly not anytime soon.

> Also notice http://www.ti.com/lit/er/sprz278f/sprz278f.pdf "Advisory
> 3.1.1.186 MMC OCP Clock Not Gated When Thermal Sensor Is Used" I think
> there were accuracy issues at certain values etc.. So remember to do a
> off mode type PM tests as well before you consider requesting these to
> be merged.

Thanks a lot for a pointer. 3x 100uA power draw when you enable
temperature sensor, because it also errorneously enables MMC. I wonder
how the solution would look in the device tree...
									Pavel
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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
Cc: "Grazvydas Ignotas" <notasas@gmail.com>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sre@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"dt list" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Pawel Moll" <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	"Ian Campbell" <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
	"Kumar Gala" <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, "Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Jean Delvare" <jdelvare@suse.de>,
	"Benoît Cousson" <bcousson@baylibre.com>,
	"Pali Rohar" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Guenter Roeck" <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: Driver for OMAP3 temperature sensor
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:00:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141230180002.GC23142@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54A1BB2B.9060204@ti.com>

On Mon 2014-12-29 14:35:55, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> On 12/29/2014 12:15 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2014-12-29 12:01:03, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> >> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>> OMAP34xx and OMAP36xx processors contain a register in the syscon area,
> >>>> which can be used to determine the SoCs temperature. This patch provides
> >>>> a DT based driver for the temperature sensor based on an older driver
> >>>> written by Peter De Schrijver for the Nokia N900 and N9.
> >>>
> >>> The sensor looks like an earlier iteration of sensors used in newer
> >>> OMAPs, which are already supported by maybe
> >>> drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ , maybe it would make sense to update
> >>> that driver instead?
> >>
> >> Just to be clear - OMAP4 is the first time that the sensors were
> >> reliable enough to be used.
> > 
> > When testing initial version of the patch, they seem to work very well
> > in the omap3 case.
> 
> Just be careful when you try to make thermal policy like decisions
> based on this sensor. Placement of the sensor w.r.t the actual logic

I guess we won't do that, certainly not anytime soon.

> Also notice http://www.ti.com/lit/er/sprz278f/sprz278f.pdf "Advisory
> 3.1.1.186 MMC OCP Clock Not Gated When Thermal Sensor Is Used" I think
> there were accuracy issues at certain values etc.. So remember to do a
> off mode type PM tests as well before you consider requesting these to
> be merged.

Thanks a lot for a pointer. 3x 100uA power draw when you enable
temperature sensor, because it also errorneously enables MMC. I wonder
how the solution would look in the device tree...
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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From: pavel@ucw.cz (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: Driver for OMAP3 temperature sensor
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 19:00:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141230180002.GC23142@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54A1BB2B.9060204@ti.com>

On Mon 2014-12-29 14:35:55, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> On 12/29/2014 12:15 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2014-12-29 12:01:03, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> >> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>> OMAP34xx and OMAP36xx processors contain a register in the syscon area,
> >>>> which can be used to determine the SoCs temperature. This patch provides
> >>>> a DT based driver for the temperature sensor based on an older driver
> >>>> written by Peter De Schrijver for the Nokia N900 and N9.
> >>>
> >>> The sensor looks like an earlier iteration of sensors used in newer
> >>> OMAPs, which are already supported by maybe
> >>> drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ , maybe it would make sense to update
> >>> that driver instead?
> >>
> >> Just to be clear - OMAP4 is the first time that the sensors were
> >> reliable enough to be used.
> > 
> > When testing initial version of the patch, they seem to work very well
> > in the omap3 case.
> 
> Just be careful when you try to make thermal policy like decisions
> based on this sensor. Placement of the sensor w.r.t the actual logic

I guess we won't do that, certainly not anytime soon.

> Also notice http://www.ti.com/lit/er/sprz278f/sprz278f.pdf "Advisory
> 3.1.1.186 MMC OCP Clock Not Gated When Thermal Sensor Is Used" I think
> there were accuracy issues at certain values etc.. So remember to do a
> off mode type PM tests as well before you consider requesting these to
> be merged.

Thanks a lot for a pointer. 3x 100uA power draw when you enable
temperature sensor, because it also errorneously enables MMC. I wonder
how the solution would look in the device tree...
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
Cc: "Grazvydas Ignotas" <notasas@gmail.com>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sre@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"dt list" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Pawel Moll" <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	"Ian Campbell" <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
	"Kumar Gala" <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, "Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Jean Delvare" <jdelvare@suse.de>,
	"Benoît Cousson" <bcousson@baylibre.com>,
	"Pali Rohar" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Guenter Roeck" <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: Driver for OMAP3 temperature sensor
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 19:00:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141230180002.GC23142@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54A1BB2B.9060204@ti.com>

On Mon 2014-12-29 14:35:55, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> On 12/29/2014 12:15 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2014-12-29 12:01:03, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> >> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>> OMAP34xx and OMAP36xx processors contain a register in the syscon area,
> >>>> which can be used to determine the SoCs temperature. This patch provides
> >>>> a DT based driver for the temperature sensor based on an older driver
> >>>> written by Peter De Schrijver for the Nokia N900 and N9.
> >>>
> >>> The sensor looks like an earlier iteration of sensors used in newer
> >>> OMAPs, which are already supported by maybe
> >>> drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ , maybe it would make sense to update
> >>> that driver instead?
> >>
> >> Just to be clear - OMAP4 is the first time that the sensors were
> >> reliable enough to be used.
> > 
> > When testing initial version of the patch, they seem to work very well
> > in the omap3 case.
> 
> Just be careful when you try to make thermal policy like decisions
> based on this sensor. Placement of the sensor w.r.t the actual logic

I guess we won't do that, certainly not anytime soon.

> Also notice http://www.ti.com/lit/er/sprz278f/sprz278f.pdf "Advisory
> 3.1.1.186 MMC OCP Clock Not Gated When Thermal Sensor Is Used" I think
> there were accuracy issues at certain values etc.. So remember to do a
> off mode type PM tests as well before you consider requesting these to
> be merged.

Thanks a lot for a pointer. 3x 100uA power draw when you enable
temperature sensor, because it also errorneously enables MMC. I wonder
how the solution would look in the device tree...
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-30 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-26 10:29 [PATCH] add omap34xx temperature monitoring support Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 10:29 ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 10:29 ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 12:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] OMAP3 temperature sensor Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34   ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34   ` [PATCH 1/3] DT Binding for omap3 " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
     [not found]     ` <1419597294-21487-2-git-send-email-sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-26 17:19       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:19         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:19         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:19         ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 23:50         ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 23:50           ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 23:50           ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 23:50           ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-27 19:09       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 12:34   ` [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: Driver for OMAP3 " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 17:26     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:26       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:26       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:24     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:24       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:24       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:40     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:40       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:40       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:48     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:48       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:48       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 23:26     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 23:26       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 23:26       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
     [not found]     ` <1419597294-21487-3-git-send-email-sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-27 19:58       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:58         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:58         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:58         ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 22:35         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 22:35           ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 22:35           ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-28  8:24           ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-28  8:24             ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-28  8:24             ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2014-12-28 10:07             ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-28 10:07               ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-28 10:07               ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-28 10:07               ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-29 17:52       ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2014-12-29 17:52         ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2014-12-29 17:52         ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2014-12-29 17:52         ` [lm-sensors] " Grazvydas Ignotas
2014-12-29 18:01         ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 18:01           ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 18:01           ` [lm-sensors] " Nishanth Menon
     [not found]           ` <CAGo_u6qO0ok+GBnm7SQtw6dJuwGN2OuP7CpKDEWawS3V2go4KA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-29 18:15             ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-29 18:15               ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-29 18:15               ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-29 18:15               ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-29 19:04               ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-29 19:04                 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-29 19:04                 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-29 19:04                 ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                 ` <20141229190448.GA27124-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-30 22:46                   ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 22:46                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 22:46                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 22:46                     ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2015-01-01  9:11                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-01  9:11                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-01  9:11                   ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2015-01-03  9:18                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-03  9:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-03  9:18                   ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2015-01-07 16:19                   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-07 16:19                     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-07 16:19                     ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2015-01-18 20:33                     ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-18 20:33                       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-18 20:33                       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2015-01-18 22:18                       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-18 22:18                         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-18 22:18                         ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2014-12-29 20:35               ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 20:35                 ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 20:35                 ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 20:35                 ` [lm-sensors] " Nishanth Menon
     [not found]                 ` <54A1BB2B.9060204-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-30 18:00                   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2014-12-30 18:00                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 18:00                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 18:00                     ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 12:34   ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: dts: OMAP34xx/36xx: Add " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
     [not found]     ` <1419597294-21487-4-git-send-email-sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-27 19:09       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 15:54 ` [PATCH] add omap34xx temperature monitoring support Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 15:54   ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 15:54   ` [lm-sensors] " Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:17   ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:17     ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:17     ` [lm-sensors] " Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:26     ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-26 16:26       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-26 16:26       ` [lm-sensors] " Pali Rohár
2014-12-26 16:31       ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:31         ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:31         ` [lm-sensors] " Tony Lindgren

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