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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: "Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	"Grazvydas Ignotas" <notasas@gmail.com>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sre@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"dt list" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Pawel Moll" <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	"Ian Campbell" <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
	"Kumar Gala" <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, "Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Jean Delvare" <jdelvare@suse.de>,
	"Benoît Cousson" <bcousson@baylibre.com>,
	"Pali Rohar" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: Driver for OMAP3 temperature sensor
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:33:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150118203346.GA29863@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150107161944.GB9012@roeck-us.net>

On Wed 2015-01-07 08:19:44, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 10:18:58AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2014-12-29 11:04:48, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 07:15:56PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > On Mon 2014-12-29 12:01:03, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >> OMAP34xx and OMAP36xx processors contain a register in the syscon area,
> > > > > >> which can be used to determine the SoCs temperature. This patch provides
> > > > > >> a DT based driver for the temperature sensor based on an older driver
> > > > > >> written by Peter De Schrijver for the Nokia N900 and N9.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The sensor looks like an earlier iteration of sensors used in newer
> > > > > > OMAPs, which are already supported by maybe
> > > > > > drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ , maybe it would make sense to update
> > > > > > that driver instead?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just to be clear - OMAP4 is the first time that the sensors were
> > > > > reliable enough to be used.
> > > > 
> > > > When testing initial version of the patch, they seem to work very well
> > > > in the omap3 case.
> > > > 
> > > Pavel,
> > > 
> > > can you look into the omap4 thermal driver to see if it can be used ?
> > 
> > After some fixes... yes, it seems to be same hardware.
> > 
> So this should be the way to go, but then we have others claim that
> it should not be done because the OMAP3 sensors are too unreliable
> to use for thermal decisions. Not really sure where that leaves us.
> I am kind of opposed to have similar drivers for similar chips
> in two different subsystems.
> 
> Is it possible to add the patch below to the omap thermal driver
> and not use it for thermal decisions ?

Well... noone forces you to enable the driver, and I don't think it
will do any thermal decisions on N900 as it is ... so we should be ok.

Plus, it seems to work reasonably well (say +- 5 C), so situation does
not seem to be as bad as TI claims.

Nokia was actually using it in production.

Best regards,
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: "Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	"Grazvydas Ignotas" <notasas@gmail.com>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sre@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"dt list" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Pawel Moll" <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	"Ian Campbell" <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	"Tony Lindgren" <tony@atomide.com>,
	"Kumar Gala" <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, "Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Jean Delvare" <jdelvare@suse.de>,
	"Benoît Cousson" <bcousson@baylibre.com>,
	"Pali Rohar" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: Driver for OMAP3 temperature sensor
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:33:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150118203346.GA29863@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150107161944.GB9012@roeck-us.net>

On Wed 2015-01-07 08:19:44, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 10:18:58AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2014-12-29 11:04:48, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 07:15:56PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > On Mon 2014-12-29 12:01:03, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >> OMAP34xx and OMAP36xx processors contain a register in the syscon area,
> > > > > >> which can be used to determine the SoCs temperature. This patch provides
> > > > > >> a DT based driver for the temperature sensor based on an older driver
> > > > > >> written by Peter De Schrijver for the Nokia N900 and N9.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The sensor looks like an earlier iteration of sensors used in newer
> > > > > > OMAPs, which are already supported by maybe
> > > > > > drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ , maybe it would make sense to update
> > > > > > that driver instead?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just to be clear - OMAP4 is the first time that the sensors were
> > > > > reliable enough to be used.
> > > > 
> > > > When testing initial version of the patch, they seem to work very well
> > > > in the omap3 case.
> > > > 
> > > Pavel,
> > > 
> > > can you look into the omap4 thermal driver to see if it can be used ?
> > 
> > After some fixes... yes, it seems to be same hardware.
> > 
> So this should be the way to go, but then we have others claim that
> it should not be done because the OMAP3 sensors are too unreliable
> to use for thermal decisions. Not really sure where that leaves us.
> I am kind of opposed to have similar drivers for similar chips
> in two different subsystems.
> 
> Is it possible to add the patch below to the omap thermal driver
> and not use it for thermal decisions ?

Well... noone forces you to enable the driver, and I don't think it
will do any thermal decisions on N900 as it is ... so we should be ok.

Plus, it seems to work reasonably well (say +- 5 C), so situation does
not seem to be as bad as TI claims.

Nokia was actually using it in production.

Best regards,
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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From: pavel@ucw.cz (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: Driver for OMAP3 temperature sensor
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:33:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150118203346.GA29863@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150107161944.GB9012@roeck-us.net>

On Wed 2015-01-07 08:19:44, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 10:18:58AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2014-12-29 11:04:48, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 07:15:56PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > On Mon 2014-12-29 12:01:03, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >> OMAP34xx and OMAP36xx processors contain a register in the syscon area,
> > > > > >> which can be used to determine the SoCs temperature. This patch provides
> > > > > >> a DT based driver for the temperature sensor based on an older driver
> > > > > >> written by Peter De Schrijver for the Nokia N900 and N9.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The sensor looks like an earlier iteration of sensors used in newer
> > > > > > OMAPs, which are already supported by maybe
> > > > > > drivers/thermal/ti-soc-thermal/ , maybe it would make sense to update
> > > > > > that driver instead?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just to be clear - OMAP4 is the first time that the sensors were
> > > > > reliable enough to be used.
> > > > 
> > > > When testing initial version of the patch, they seem to work very well
> > > > in the omap3 case.
> > > > 
> > > Pavel,
> > > 
> > > can you look into the omap4 thermal driver to see if it can be used ?
> > 
> > After some fixes... yes, it seems to be same hardware.
> > 
> So this should be the way to go, but then we have others claim that
> it should not be done because the OMAP3 sensors are too unreliable
> to use for thermal decisions. Not really sure where that leaves us.
> I am kind of opposed to have similar drivers for similar chips
> in two different subsystems.
> 
> Is it possible to add the patch below to the omap thermal driver
> and not use it for thermal decisions ?

Well... noone forces you to enable the driver, and I don't think it
will do any thermal decisions on N900 as it is ... so we should be ok.

Plus, it seems to work reasonably well (say +- 5 C), so situation does
not seem to be as bad as TI claims.

Nokia was actually using it in production.

Best regards,
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-18 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-26 10:29 [PATCH] add omap34xx temperature monitoring support Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 10:29 ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 10:29 ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 12:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] OMAP3 temperature sensor Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34   ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34   ` [PATCH 1/3] DT Binding for omap3 " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
     [not found]     ` <1419597294-21487-2-git-send-email-sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-26 17:19       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:19         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:19         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:19         ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 23:50         ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 23:50           ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 23:50           ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 23:50           ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-27 19:09       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 12:34   ` [PATCH 2/3] hwmon: Driver for OMAP3 " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 17:26     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:26       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 17:26       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:24     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:24       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:24       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:40     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:40       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:40       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:48     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:48       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:48       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 23:26     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 23:26       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 23:26       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
     [not found]     ` <1419597294-21487-3-git-send-email-sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-27 19:58       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:58         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:58         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:58         ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 22:35         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 22:35           ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 22:35           ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-28  8:24           ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-28  8:24             ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-28  8:24             ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2014-12-28 10:07             ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-28 10:07               ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-28 10:07               ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-28 10:07               ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-29 17:52       ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2014-12-29 17:52         ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2014-12-29 17:52         ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2014-12-29 17:52         ` [lm-sensors] " Grazvydas Ignotas
2014-12-29 18:01         ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 18:01           ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 18:01           ` [lm-sensors] " Nishanth Menon
     [not found]           ` <CAGo_u6qO0ok+GBnm7SQtw6dJuwGN2OuP7CpKDEWawS3V2go4KA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-29 18:15             ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-29 18:15               ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-29 18:15               ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-29 18:15               ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-29 19:04               ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-29 19:04                 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-29 19:04                 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-12-29 19:04                 ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                 ` <20141229190448.GA27124-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-30 22:46                   ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 22:46                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 22:46                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 22:46                     ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2015-01-01  9:11                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-01  9:11                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-01  9:11                   ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2015-01-03  9:18                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-03  9:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-03  9:18                   ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2015-01-07 16:19                   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-07 16:19                     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-07 16:19                     ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2015-01-18 20:33                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-01-18 20:33                       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-18 20:33                       ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2015-01-18 22:18                       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-18 22:18                         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-18 22:18                         ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2014-12-29 20:35               ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 20:35                 ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 20:35                 ` Nishanth Menon
2014-12-29 20:35                 ` [lm-sensors] " Nishanth Menon
     [not found]                 ` <54A1BB2B.9060204-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-30 18:00                   ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 18:00                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 18:00                     ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-30 18:00                     ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 12:34   ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: dts: OMAP34xx/36xx: Add " Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-12-26 12:34     ` [lm-sensors] " Sebastian Reichel
     [not found]     ` <1419597294-21487-4-git-send-email-sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-27 19:09       ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-27 19:09         ` [lm-sensors] " Pavel Machek
2014-12-26 15:54 ` [PATCH] add omap34xx temperature monitoring support Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 15:54   ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 15:54   ` [lm-sensors] " Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:17   ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:17     ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:17     ` [lm-sensors] " Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:26     ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-26 16:26       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-26 16:26       ` [lm-sensors] " Pali Rohár
2014-12-26 16:31       ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:31         ` Tony Lindgren
2014-12-26 16:31         ` [lm-sensors] " Tony Lindgren

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