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From: Guenter Roeck <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] eeprom: at24: Add support for large EEPROMs connected to SMBus adapters
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:01:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150212040126.GA1691@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150205175326.GA26691-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 09:53:26AM -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 03:40:28PM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> > > > > At the same time multi-master access is quite rare.
> > > > 
> > > > It should still work in those rare cases. A setup of an SoC, an EC
> > > > (those like to be masters, as well), and an EEPROM is not very far off.
> > 
> > To clarify: What I meant here is, at24 should also work in those rare
> > cases reliably (like the described case of SoC, EC and EEPROM). Your
> > patch sacrificies this reliability.
> > 
> But it won't, and it can't. 24c32 should simply not be used in such cases.
> Besides, at least on PCs, ACPI should reserve and thus block SMBus access
> if it is used by an EC (or IPMI or similar).
> 
> I don't think it should (or even can) be the Linux kernel's responsibility
> to ensure that the hardware does not prevent such problems.
> 
Hi Wolfram,

I wonder where we are with thisp patch; I don't recall a reply to my previous
e-mail.

Do you need some more time to think about it ? Otherwise I'll publish an
out-of-tree version of the at24 driver with the patch applied on github,
for those who might need the functionality provided by this patch.

Please let me know.

Thanks,
Guenter

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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] eeprom: at24: Add support for large EEPROMs connected to SMBus adapters
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:01:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150212040126.GA1691@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150205175326.GA26691@roeck-us.net>

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 09:53:26AM -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 03:40:28PM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> > > > > At the same time multi-master access is quite rare.
> > > > 
> > > > It should still work in those rare cases. A setup of an SoC, an EC
> > > > (those like to be masters, as well), and an EEPROM is not very far off.
> > 
> > To clarify: What I meant here is, at24 should also work in those rare
> > cases reliably (like the described case of SoC, EC and EEPROM). Your
> > patch sacrificies this reliability.
> > 
> But it won't, and it can't. 24c32 should simply not be used in such cases.
> Besides, at least on PCs, ACPI should reserve and thus block SMBus access
> if it is used by an EC (or IPMI or similar).
> 
> I don't think it should (or even can) be the Linux kernel's responsibility
> to ensure that the hardware does not prevent such problems.
> 
Hi Wolfram,

I wonder where we are with thisp patch; I don't recall a reply to my previous
e-mail.

Do you need some more time to think about it ? Otherwise I'll publish an
out-of-tree version of the at24 driver with the patch applied on github,
for those who might need the functionality provided by this patch.

Please let me know.

Thanks,
Guenter

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-12  4:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-04 16:23 [PATCH] eeprom: at24: Add support for large EEPROMs connected to SMBus adapters Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 16:23 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 17:47 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-04 19:08   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 19:08     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 23:35     ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-05  0:26       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-05  0:26         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-05 14:40         ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-05 17:53           ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]             ` <20150205175326.GA26691-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-12  4:01               ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2015-02-12  4:01                 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-16 12:09                 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-16 15:37                   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-17  4:20                   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-17  4:20                     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-18 13:27                     ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-19  3:24                       ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                         ` <550A4162.8000009-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19  8:16                           ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-19  8:16                             ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-19 13:30                             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-19 13:30                               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-19 17:43                             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-19 17:43                               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-19 21:39                               ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-25 14:11                                 ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                                   ` <5512C213.7030705-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 16:15                                     ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-25 16:15                                       ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-25 16:37                                       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-25 16:37                                         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-27  8:09                                   ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-27 12:51                                     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-27 13:01                                       ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-27 13:14                                         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-27 15:27                                           ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-27 15:42                                             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-27 15:42                                               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 20:33   ` Guenter Roeck

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