From: Guenter Roeck <linux-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] eeprom: at24: Add support for large EEPROMs connected to SMBus adapters
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:37:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150325163703.GA8389@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150325161504.GA29838@katana>
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 05:15:04PM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> Guenter,
>
> thanks for the update
>
> > Ultimately, the real problem is how i2c-dev accesses a client, not how
> > i2c client drivers (who assume they have exclusive access to a chip)
> > handle multi-command sequences. Forcing extensive locking on all drivers
> > because of i2c-dev just doesn't seem to be the right thing to do.
>
> I agree. i2c-dev is too much of a special case.
>
> And since at24 has its own lock (I missed that), your patch might as
> well be good enough to be applied, I'd think.
>
Ah, sorry, I blindly assumed that you are aware of that. Yes, at24
itself is not the problem, it is parallel access to the chip by i2c-dev.
The same is actually true for all the other drivers I looked at;
usually they have their own lock(s), but such locks do not protect
against interference by i2c-dev.
The bad part is that i2c-dev is heavily used by user space at my
workplace, and that code happily messes with chips which are also
handled by kernel drivers. But as I said, I have no real good idea
how to fix that - neither the user-space code nor how i2c-dev
interfers with (or completely messes up) device access by drivers.
Thanks,
Guenter
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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] eeprom: at24: Add support for large EEPROMs connected to SMBus adapters
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:37:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150325163703.GA8389@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150325161504.GA29838@katana>
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 05:15:04PM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> Guenter,
>
> thanks for the update
>
> > Ultimately, the real problem is how i2c-dev accesses a client, not how
> > i2c client drivers (who assume they have exclusive access to a chip)
> > handle multi-command sequences. Forcing extensive locking on all drivers
> > because of i2c-dev just doesn't seem to be the right thing to do.
>
> I agree. i2c-dev is too much of a special case.
>
> And since at24 has its own lock (I missed that), your patch might as
> well be good enough to be applied, I'd think.
>
Ah, sorry, I blindly assumed that you are aware of that. Yes, at24
itself is not the problem, it is parallel access to the chip by i2c-dev.
The same is actually true for all the other drivers I looked at;
usually they have their own lock(s), but such locks do not protect
against interference by i2c-dev.
The bad part is that i2c-dev is heavily used by user space at my
workplace, and that code happily messes with chips which are also
handled by kernel drivers. But as I said, I have no real good idea
how to fix that - neither the user-space code nor how i2c-dev
interfers with (or completely messes up) device access by drivers.
Thanks,
Guenter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-25 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-04 16:23 [PATCH] eeprom: at24: Add support for large EEPROMs connected to SMBus adapters Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 16:23 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 17:47 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-04 19:08 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 19:08 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 23:35 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-05 0:26 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-05 0:26 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-05 14:40 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-05 17:53 ` Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <20150205175326.GA26691-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-12 4:01 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-12 4:01 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-16 12:09 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-02-16 15:37 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-17 4:20 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-17 4:20 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-18 13:27 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-19 3:24 ` Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <550A4162.8000009-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-19 8:16 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-19 8:16 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-19 13:30 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-19 13:30 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-19 17:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-19 17:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-19 21:39 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-25 14:11 ` Guenter Roeck
[not found] ` <5512C213.7030705-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-25 16:15 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-25 16:15 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-25 16:37 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2015-03-25 16:37 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-27 8:09 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-27 12:51 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-27 13:01 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-27 13:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-27 15:27 ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-27 15:42 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-27 15:42 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-04 20:33 ` Guenter Roeck
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